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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:42 pm to mindbreaker
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cherry picking to fit your agenda. Got it. at least you are open about it
What agenda? The SCOTUS has ruled on this quite clearly. I'm sorry you don't like it.
As I said, feel free to amend the constitution. It's the whole reason the process is there.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:42 pm to Powerman
quote:perhaps, but how many gun accidents are there that would be reduced by a license? I don't think gun accidents are a major issue.
It's probably a good idea for people to be trained in gun safety to eliminate accidents.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Advocating for gun safety and training is never dumb
The ones I'm talking about are not saying gun safety training. They are just saying training as a solution to stop school shootings and criminal shooting violence specifically.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:44 pm to NATidefan
You can't teach an entire culture that killing someone because they dissed you is not OK in a classroom.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:44 pm to mindbreaker
answer my other example then. rural America too?
i also love the disingenuous presumption that if we pass gun law X in 2022 - that when another horrific school shooting takes place that the “we got to do something” crowd won’t just push down more gun control onto law abiding gun owners, instead of just admitting they were wrong.
i also love the disingenuous presumption that if we pass gun law X in 2022 - that when another horrific school shooting takes place that the “we got to do something” crowd won’t just push down more gun control onto law abiding gun owners, instead of just admitting they were wrong.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:46 pm to Klark Kent
"Comprise" on gun control regulations have only gone one way since 1934.
Funny that.
Funny that.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:46 pm to Chicken
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perhaps, but how many gun accidents are there that would be reduced by a license? I don't think gun accidents are a major issue.
somewhere like 3-5% it isn't.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:48 pm to Centinel
it’s almost like we have a really good example of that, in a country on our border.
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“You can’t use a gun for self-protection in Canada. It’s not a right that you have,” says Trudeau.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:48 pm to Centinel
quote:Compromising on the 2nd is a straight line in one direction.
"Comprise" on gun control regulations have only gone one way since 1934.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:48 pm to Vamos Brandonos
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Shall not be infringed makes them all equally dumb.
The left does not care about a piece of paper written by a group of old white men. They are working just as hard to get rid of the constitution as they are guns.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:49 pm to brgfather129
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Shall not be infringed...or, this is different?
What crime is taking place here?
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:51 pm to Vamos Brandonos
that Boosie and Webbie aren’t still making fricking dope hits together. that’s all i got
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:51 pm to Klark Kent
I don't have the answers and even agree that the numbers can be over sensationalized. For example fun violence in inner cities gangs being lumped in to the mass shooting stats.
But I do know even taking those numbers out we by far lead the world in these type of incidents.
I also know there are other democratic countries with High gun ownership rates that have more restrictions in place to prevent this type of stuff and it works.
I'm not for taking peoples guns they currently have. But just to just hold form and say nothing can be done when it has been done other places and works is just disingenuous as padding the stats to get your agenda across
But I do know even taking those numbers out we by far lead the world in these type of incidents.
I also know there are other democratic countries with High gun ownership rates that have more restrictions in place to prevent this type of stuff and it works.
I'm not for taking peoples guns they currently have. But just to just hold form and say nothing can be done when it has been done other places and works is just disingenuous as padding the stats to get your agenda across
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:54 pm to mindbreaker
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But I do know even taking those numbers out we by far lead the world in these type of incidents.
I also know there are other democratic countries with High gun ownership rates that have more restrictions in place to prevent this type of stuff and it works.
population and demographics are important context to this conversation. just saying.
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I'm not for taking peoples guns they currently have. But just to just hold form and say nothing can be done when it has been done other places and works is just disingenuous as padding the stats to get your agenda across
so far the only solutions proposed by you and the “we have to do something” crowd would only effect legal gun owners. Who statistically DO NOT commit these crimes. So, when you’ve got something to keep guns out of the bad guys hands, let me know.
And you can spin it all you want as “my agenda”. I have no agenda other than calling out stupid suggestions that won’t change a fricking thing.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:55 pm to mindbreaker
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I don't have the answers
Because you're not asking the right questions.
The first question you should be asking, is why were these type of events almost unheard of until 20 or so years ago, despite firearms being just as prevalent, and in the case prior to 1934, even more so than today?
Here, I'll give you a hint. And why it won't matter if we ban guns:
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:56 pm to mindbreaker
The issue is that after you pass new regulations and the next incident occurs, what is that "compromise" going to entail? More regulations. A compromise requires both sides to give up something they want.
There are no compromises, just a slow gradual march towards more infringement.
There are no compromises, just a slow gradual march towards more infringement.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:02 pm to Centinel
you do realize that gun manufacturing has tripled since 2000 correct?
there can be more than one causation. And even if it is in the last 20 years so what. It's a problem right now. Holding firm and saying nothing can be done isn't going to fix the problem either.
I even offered I don't have a solution, but do you have one aside from screaming "infringed" every time a school shooting happens?
Everyone posting in this thread knows one person that has a gun and thinks, How did that person get a gun, they shouldn't have a gun. Okay, so that goes to, how do we stop those people from getting firearms.
there can be more than one causation. And even if it is in the last 20 years so what. It's a problem right now. Holding firm and saying nothing can be done isn't going to fix the problem either.
I even offered I don't have a solution, but do you have one aside from screaming "infringed" every time a school shooting happens?
Everyone posting in this thread knows one person that has a gun and thinks, How did that person get a gun, they shouldn't have a gun. Okay, so that goes to, how do we stop those people from getting firearms.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:06 pm to northshorebamaman
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The issue is that after you pass new regulations and the next incident occurs, what is that "compromise" going to entail? More regulations. A compromise requires both sides to give up something they want.
There are no compromises, just a slow gradual march towards more infringement.
That's fair, but no one knows that for sure. It's the same as passing laws for future crimes. Do we really want to hope the problem corrects itself out of fear of what may or may not happen in the future? Hell we haven't had anything passed legitimately through our government in 15 years unless we artificially lifted the filibuster for that particular thing. What on earth makes you think something as extreme as banning all guns would ever make it through congress?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:11 pm to northshorebamaman
Let me tell you how "gun training" will actually work. Anti-gunners will co-opt the departments offering classes. They'll restrict the amount available so that people will be waiting over a year to get enrolled, this slowing the process to a crawl. They'll also make the paperwork associated with getting enrolled and completed as cumbersome as possible so that any honest clerical error will derail the entire process. They'll try to discourage people from even attempting to own a gun by making it a complete pain in the arse to even begin.
"But, SoFla, you're just being hyperbolic to make a partisan point." Oh, really? How long does it take to obtain the requisite forms and paperwork to purchase a suppressor now? Class III license? In this digital age there is no justification or excuse for the amount of time it typically takes to get a response from governmental agencies to exercise your constitutional rights.
"But, SoFla, you're just being hyperbolic to make a partisan point." Oh, really? How long does it take to obtain the requisite forms and paperwork to purchase a suppressor now? Class III license? In this digital age there is no justification or excuse for the amount of time it typically takes to get a response from governmental agencies to exercise your constitutional rights.
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