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re: NYT: American Adults Just Keep Getting Fatter

Posted on 7/24/18 at 11:56 am to
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 11:56 am to
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I’m 5’7 168 pounds. I very obviously need to lose about 25 pounds, but every year my health screening comes back with a gold star rating, which means I’m in the upper tier of health.
I'm no scientist so I don't really know if BMI is the best tool to use but I always hear two main attacks: 1. What about people who lift weights? and 2. You'd be too thin if you were in the "healthy" range.

I tend to think that the answer to the first one is that less people actually "work" today than when BMI was first developed and many more people were "lifting weights" and staying physically active when they had to do so in order to survive. To the second objection, I think that people weigh more on average and that has skewed what people find to be "normal". Thus, overweight people are viewed as average-sized while people in the "normal" BMI range are thinner than most of the population.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:04 pm to
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I hope the extra 3-5 years you gain in old age by denying yourself the enjoyment of something as basic as food is all you hope it will be.

I'll take a McGriddle, ma'am.
lol

fatties have the absolute worst taste in food

if I'm going to get something "unhealthy," it sure as shite won't be some garbage arse food from McDonalds
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:06 pm to
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But that isn’t fine. It’s not okay to settle with your body at any point in life. You should be pursuing a healthy, sustainable, useful body at all times. Telling people they should be okay with being overweight or slightly obese is a bad mindset and leads to complaceny which leads to those 268 pound land whales that are plaguing our health care systems.


You may have misread me. I agree with your point completely. Everyone's fitness goals are different, which is something to keep in mind. Some women may want to be 130 or less. Some may like having some sort of thickness. As long as you are constantly thriving to live a healthy lifestyle is what's most important.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Note kids, if you define something using a percentile, you can't follow it up by stating what percentage of people meet that percentile. The only information conveyed here is they may have drawn the percentile in the wrong spot.


Another caveat is that you can get away with eating junk easier when you're young.

I didn't have to start watching my diet until a few years ago.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:15 pm to
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You may have misread me. I agree with your point completely. Everyone's fitness goals are different, which is something to keep in mind. Some women may want to be 130 or less. Some may like having some sort of thickness. As long as you are constantly thriving to live a healthy lifestyle is what's most important.


Gotcha.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:21 pm to
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2000 will maintain their weight of 300+ pounds. Should be less down to 1200 to get to a healthy weight.


A 6', 300lb man that lives a sedentary life style requires around 2800 calories to maintain that weight.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:39 pm to
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m no scientist so I don't really know if BMI is the best tool to use but I always hear two main attacks: 1. What about people who lift weights? and 2. You'd be too thin if you were in the "healthy" range.

I tend to think that the answer to the first one is that less people actually "work" today than when BMI was first developed and many more people were "lifting weights" and staying physically active when they had to do so in order to survive. To the second objection, I think that people weigh more on average and that has skewed what people find to be "normal". Thus, overweight people are viewed as average-sized while people in the "normal" BMI range are thinner than most of the population.


I’m 5’8” maybe 5’9”. I am currently on a new diet and losing fat, but I also lift weights. Heavy, hard and often. Even when I drop my body fat % to a healthy level, I will still be “overweight.” I believe the chart says I should weigh about 165. I MIGHT be able to get down under 200. I’m right at 230 right now. How am I suppose to get to 165? I would lose all my muscle. Also, I gentically have big fricking legs. All the men in my family are short and stocky.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:41 pm to
I don't know. The only other thing I can think of is that extra weight on the joints (whether it's extra fat or extra muscle) might not be the best thing over the long run.

But I could be totally wrong.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:42 pm to
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I’m 5’8” maybe 5’9”.


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I MIGHT be able to get down under 200.


You can get under 200
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36165 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:48 pm to
And yet, the same fricking MSM that bashes fast food restaurants and warns against people eating there will put this shite on magazine covers (there are worse) and promote being "beautiful at any size."



It's a complete fricking contradiction to on the one hand warn of the "epidemic" of Americans getting fatter. Then in the very next breath laud morbidly obese women as "courageous" for feeling comfortable in their own skin and put them in bikinis in magazines.

Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I’m 5’8” 


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I’m right at 230


This is fricking fat.

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Also, I gentically have big fricking legs.


Muh genetics
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
117566 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 12:54 pm to
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this shite on magazine covers
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:02 pm to
No you’re just lazy and making excuses. You really think every normal weight person has a super strict diet of foods like boiled chicken and veggies? No we just don’t overeat and snack on junk most of the time.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:05 pm to
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That excuse needs to die.


But then Americans would be responsible for their own weight gain, and that's just not OK in 2018.

Anybody who works out consistently (except maybe at Planet Fitness ) knows that gyms are not filled with fat people working their asses off and just not seeing results because of their unfortunate genetics. Most people in gyms longer than the first three weeks of the new year are seeing results and/or maintaining them.

Americans are fat because they eat too much, they don't exercise, and there are no consequences for doing it - other than early death after a prolonged hospitalization paid for by other people and followed by a lawsuit by family members hoping to squeeze out some settlement money because working, like exercise, is hard.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:06 pm to
Well if you really don’t care then you wouldn’t respond at all
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:07 pm to
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I hope the extra 3-5 years you gain in old age by denying yourself the enjoyment of something as basic as food is all you hope it will be.



If you exercise regularly you dont have to be a complete diet nazi, plus you feel better and look better.

And with all the cardio I do my dick gets so hard a cat couldnt scratch it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:07 pm to
Fair enough. What I was getting at is that the McGriddle a day types aren’t eating less than a maintenance diet and often times eating more.

The “you can eat one every day and still have 1200 calories to spare” is talking about a very limited amount of people.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70129 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:12 pm to
Now I feel like eating at Golden Corral despite making progress with ketogenic diet with intermittent fasting
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13527 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:13 pm to
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Now I feel like eating at Golden Corral

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 1:18 pm to
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You can get under 200



I’m working on it. I used to be 260. Now I’m 230, and my pants can barely stay on. Hopefully I’ll be where I want to be in a few months. Counting calories, rotating carb intake, eating a lot of protein, more cardio on off days, limiting alcohol consumption to just about none. I had hit a wall. Then got on a legit diet plan, and I believe it’s working. And I’m stronger now in the gym than I have ever been.
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