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re: NY wants to lock people up if they are deemed a danger to public health
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:54 pm to alexahet
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:54 pm to alexahet
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I am saying, he probably acted like an arse when asked about a mask or vaccine pass and was arrested due to his overall behavior, not his lack of mask or vax pass.
They have made it illegal to enter buildings without a vaccine pass. No acting like an arse is needed for them to arrest you.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:54 pm to fightin tigers
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They have smoking 'manadates' as well
Smoking is a lot more dangerous than the sniffles
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:55 pm to stout
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They didn't set the requirement.
I would imagine they did. I honestly didn't read the story, but was there a NYC rep there or did the store call the cops?
Have a hard time believing they called the cops just because the guy didn't have proof. How did they get him to stick around long enough for the cops to get there?
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:56 pm to fightin tigers
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I would imagine they did.
You would imagine wrong. I added the link showing the mandate. I cant help you if you want to continue to be stupid.
It even says this in the mandate
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To report a location that is not following these requirements, call 311.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:57 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Smoking is a lot more dangerous than the sniffles
Probably so. Probably not from a single exposure though.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:57 pm to stout
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No acting like an arse is needed for them to arrest you.
Fair. However, I doubt NYPD is arresting everyone without a vaccine pass. Just because they CAN, doesn't mean they will - they aren't looking to do any extra work or crowd their jails. It is the same reason, some people get arrested for being drunk in public, and others don't. How you act and speak to law enforcement will influence whether or not you actually end up in the clinker or not.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:58 pm to stout
So he was arrested simply because he didn't have a vaccine passport?
That is what you are telling me.
This same guy has terrible luck. It was the 3rd time in two weeks he was arrested for "just trying to order food"
That is what you are telling me.
This same guy has terrible luck. It was the 3rd time in two weeks he was arrested for "just trying to order food"
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:05 pm to fightin tigers
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So he was arrested simply because he didn't have a vaccine passport?
I am not sure how you fail to grasp the fact that he was arrested for failing to provide a vaccine passport is the problem. It's scary if you are OK with it being a mandate by the city and people can get arrested for it and even doing your best to defend it while blaming the guy.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:07 pm to fightin tigers
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So he was arrested simply because he didn't have a vaccine passport?
Yes
There are actual criminals on the streets. Murdering people, children, beating Asian people.
But all the cops are worrying about someone trying to get food with out a vaccine card
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:09 pm to stout
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am not sure how you fail to grasp the fact that he was arrested for failing to provide a vaccine passport is the problem
These people are lost
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:11 pm to stout
You are disingenuous in these threads.
The dude was asked to leave and didn't. He apparently had been going around the city starting shite as "a protestor" for the last couple weeks.
Hardest thing to find is the guy's name.
The dude was asked to leave and didn't. He apparently had been going around the city starting shite as "a protestor" for the last couple weeks.
Hardest thing to find is the guy's name.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:12 pm to fightin tigers
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The dude was asked to leave and didn't. He apparently had been going around the city starting shite as "a protestor" for the last couple weeks.
Who cares? The fact that this has to be protested is the issue. You are lost if you don't see this.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:16 pm to stout
You mean why do I care if the reasoning is a guy going around trying to start shite or NYPD overstepping unprompted?
If you can't figure out the two storylines then this discussion is a pointless endeavor.
There are plenty of places not enforcing the vax mandate. He could choose to dine there, he wants a fight. He is a piece of shite.
If you can't figure out the two storylines then this discussion is a pointless endeavor.
There are plenty of places not enforcing the vax mandate. He could choose to dine there, he wants a fight. He is a piece of shite.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:18 pm to fightin tigers
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There are plenty of places not enforcing the vax mandate. He could choose to dine there, he wants a fight. He is a piece of shite.
The worthless pieces of shite are the political leaders pushing this. I say hang these frickers high
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:34 pm to alexahet
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This is happening literally all over the world. Countries recognize that they need to take more drastic measures to protect their citizens.
If everyone jumped off a bridge would advocate for jumping off a bridge?
Not an argument.
And I think we need drastic measures to stop you and your new-nazi ilk. Just not the kind you would like.
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Also, we have already been requesting proof of vaccination/immunity for decades in this country. This is no different. shite, in order to receive certain medical treatments, you're required to be vaccinated against the measles, mumps, etc, etc. Why is this any different?
I just read you called someone else disingenuous. That's rich. Lame talking point again you parrot. All 'vaccines" are different. Just because 1 is required doesn't mean all should be required.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:42 pm to alexahet
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Countries recognize that they need to take more drastic measures to protect their citizens. Sweden, which was all for the "herd immunity" approach in early 2020 is requiring proof of vaccination to enter the country as of this coming week. They're trying to keep their citizens safe and this is a way to curb the import of new variants.
Another country stones gays to death, should we do that too?
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Also, we have already been requesting proof of vaccination/immunity for decades in this country. This is no different. shite, in order to receive certain medical treatments, you're required to be vaccinated against the measles, mumps, etc, etc. Why is this any different?
Because covid isn't as dangerous at those. At this point it's like mandating the flu shot.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:45 pm to tgrgrd00
The leftists in here, who claimed that Trump was a fascist for 4 years, are telling us not to worry about a bill that has been filed that would give the executive of NY the right to incarcerate someone without a trial based on a vague concept of public health emergency. This is after the same government has ordered lockdowns and quarantines, destroyed small businesses, put tens of thousands of working people out of a job, commingled Covid patients with those in nursing homes and now is requiring vaccine passports for people to live a normal life. To every leftist in this thread: frick you and your authoritarian bullshite.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:50 pm to fightin tigers
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There are plenty of places not enforcing the vax mandate. He could choose to dine there, he wants a fight. He is a piece of shite.
So Jews and blacks should only dine out if select restaurants don’t enforce the Nuremberg laws or segregation...that is tantamount to the crap that you are spewing.
frick off with your shitty viewpoint.
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