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re: NY wants to lock people up if they are deemed a danger to public health

Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:03 pm to
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So civil disobedience


Absolutely no problem with it. Go be disobedient in the city buildings where entering with a vax is illegal. They made the rules and are enforcing them. It's a shortcut.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:06 pm to
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They equally crossed the line for me when it comes to being pieces of shite. I don't see hiw anyone can defend either set if actions.
You don’t have to defend them, but I don’t see how anyone can see them as equal acts.
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I didn't know I needed to rank the levels if pieces of shite, but yeah, I'd put murder above trespassing.
But you put burning down businesses and billions of dollars in damage on the same level as a man going to a restaurant to purposefully get arrested.

Why are you willing to put murder above trespassing but not mass riots and damage above what this guy did?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:07 pm to
The idea that Jews are a distinct race must be some white supremacist conspiracy theory that is not fit for publication:

Haaretz: DNA links prove Jews are a 'race'
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:08 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78461 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Why are you willing to put murder above trespassing but not mass riots and damage above what this guy did?


Fine. One is a piece if shite I won't defend the other is a bigger piece of shite I won't defend.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:13 pm to
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Fine. One is a piece if shite I won't defend the other is a bigger piece of shite I won't defend.

Perfect.

This entire stupid conversation wouldn’t have happened and the thread wouldn’t gone as far as it did had you simply not stated that you see what this guy did and what BLM did as equal.



Stating that one is worse than another isn’t defending one and condemning another.

It is simply stating reality.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Absolutely no problem with it. Go be disobedient in the city buildings where entering with a vax is illegal.


Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78461 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:18 pm to
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This entire stupid conversation wouldn’t have happened and the thread wouldn’t gone as far as it did had you simply not stated that you see what this guy did and what BLM did as equal


Nah, too many people don't see anything wrong with what this guy did/is doing.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:19 pm to
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Nah, too many people don't see anything wrong with what this guy did.
And you could argue that point without stating that the man’s actions were on par with BLM’s.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:19 pm to
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True I guess. All the restaurants and bar owners I have talked to are just trying to survive. Pretty much all hate the shite more than the customer, but they are put in position of enforcing or losing their livelihoods.


Revisit my first post in our discussion.

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I get it the "just following orders" part comes in to play. But when they lose all their shite you will just move on calling the next person a nazi and won't give a frick.


There is no need to be presumptuous.

I say that EVERYONE should band together and tell Chairman Joe and Josef Mengele to frick off.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78461 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 10:30 pm to
Probably a different thread, but I mean this dead serious. If this was the holocaust equivalent, and they were going to write a book about these times, would you have any actions worth putting under your name?

What is your name under. I mean, we have all said something on TD or social media, but are you happy with how much you resisted outside of just living your life?

(Rhetorical question, don't really want an answer)
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:02 am to
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This is happening literally all over the world. Countries recognize that they need to take more drastic measures to protect their citizens. Sweden, which was all for the "herd immunity" approach in early 2020 is requiring proof of vaccination to enter the country as of this coming week. They're trying to keep their citizens safe and this is a way to curb the import of new variants.

Also, we have already been requesting proof of vaccination/immunity for decades in this country. This is no different. shite, in order to receive certain medical treatments, you're required to be vaccinated against the measles, mumps, etc, etc. Why is this any different?


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alexahet


Here’s what I have to say to your “safety” you spineless count.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:05 am to
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Fair. However, I doubt NYPD is arresting everyone without a vaccine pass. Just because they CAN, doesn't mean they will - they aren't looking to do any extra work or crowd their jails. It is the same reason, some people get arrested for being drunk in public, and others don't. How you act and speak to law enforcement will influence whether or not you actually end up in the clinker or not.


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alexahet


Posted by alexahet
Everywhere
Member since Apr 2010
3204 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:07 am to
Someone woke up in the wrong side of the bed this morning
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:07 am to
National Socialist Party is at it again.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:08 am to
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There are plenty of places not enforcing the vax mandate. He could choose to dine there, he wants a fight. He is a piece of shite.


No, you are the piece of shite. You are an idiot and coward.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:13 am to
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You do realize remaining unvaxxed is choice.


There are people with preexisting conditions that can’t get the vaccine, you dumb frick. Which by the way in NYC if you have one of these preexisting conditions that prevents you from getting vaccinated you still can’t participate in society. We have created a fascist society with different inherent classes and I won’t forget the fascist cocksuckers like you that defended this. Fascism always fails in the end, and you will go down the villain in this story.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:18 am to
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Yes. I can say that both groups are pieces of shite for taking out their anger at the government on private businesses.

Panera didn't pass these fricking laws. Leave them out of it. Go not wear a mask or some shite in a government building.


I want to be super clear to you: you are the type of guy that would rat out his neighbor to the Gestapo if you suspected they were hiding Jews. “Hey I know it’s fricked, but they knew the rules. I’m not going to have the Gestapo bashing in my door if they suspected I knew about it. But hey, rules are rules.” You are a fricking coward.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:21 am to
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are you happy with how much you resisted outside of just living your life? (Rhetorical question, don't really want an answer)


Here is my response (even if you didn’t want it)...yes.

I believe in non-violent protests.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:22 am to
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They equally crossed the line for me when it comes to being pieces of shite.


Walking into a room unvaccinated is morally equivalent to burning down someone’s business and taking their and their employee’s livelihoods away? You’re an idiot to put it mildly.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74888 posts
Posted on 12/20/21 at 8:25 am to
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They're trying to keep their citizens safe and this is a way to curb the import of new variants.




“safe”. safe from a virus that for the healthy and under age 65, had significantly less than 1% chance of killing you?

i think i’ll take my chances and not be a pussy like you. and don’t come back with that, “what if you pass it to someone else”. As i’ve stated many many times in the past 2 years: your health and well-being doesn’t mean a fricking thing to me.
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