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re: NY Times: It’s Time for America to Admit That It Has a Marijuana Problem

Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Whoever invents an accurate spot-test for marijuana intoxication


This already exists…
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
1397 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:58 pm to
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Jesus also intoxicated people with Wine, so there's that.


Uneducated and inaccurate statement
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59204 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:20 pm to
Legalize it, tax it, allow it only in smoking areas, make sellers/growers pay for ads talking about how bad it is for you... just like cigarettes.



That said, part of it needs to be cops pulling people over when they smell pot. If I'm driving down Florida after work, I can guarantee I'll smell pot coming from at least one vehicle so it's not like it would be hard to find.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56847 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:27 pm to
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which is why I’m happy Louisiana is doing it using the monopoly pharmacy model, even if they fell into it arse backwards. Keep the number of dispensaries limited, keep the price high and keep the “medical” evaluation requirement intact. It works better than unfettered recreational access



yet these threads are always filled with people who live in Louisiana bitching about the smell
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18512 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:32 pm to
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yet these threads are always filled with people who live in Louisiana bitching about the smell


That's the think, Louisiana stinks anyway. How do they tell the difference?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20074 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:33 pm to
One of the biggest lies ever told to our country was weed being bad and yet it continues after all we know for a fact now.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1100 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:38 pm to
The only thing I am aware of is testing that I includes 30 days or so. Not like alcohol BAC. Companies can use a drug test that shows positive and the employee may have partaken 2 weekends before.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6069 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:13 pm to
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The only thing I am aware of is testing that I includes 30 days or so. Not like alcohol BAC. Companies can use a drug test that shows positive and the employee may have partaken 2 weekends before.


They have a salvia swab test that only goes back two hours for thc… very expensive though
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12849 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:37 pm to
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It’s Time for America to Admit That It Has a Marijuana Problem


And gambling. Young men are getting destroyed by gambling.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6069 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:39 pm to
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part of it needs to be cops pulling people over when they smell pot.


Very slippery slope
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7311 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:00 pm to
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That's not an argument against legalization. It's an argument for consistent enforcement of existing laws. Smoke in your own space, follow the same expectations we apply to alcohol or tobacco, and hold people accountable when they step outside those lines. Creating new bans on top of behavior that is already illegal doesn’t solve anything, it just pretends enforcement failures are policy failures.


But in a lot of ways it's not the same. It is legal to consume alcohol in many places. A really lot of people have stopped driving drunk due to punitive measures in place. Many people uber now.

Bars and restaurants generally do not allow cigarette smoking. Most people follow those laws and don't try to light up there.

Weed is different. People sit in their car and light it up before they go to places. Then then walk in to all kinds of places reeking and obviously high. But they aren't actually caught in the act of consumption in a public place. They are doing it in their cars. Do store managers, bar bouncers, security guys go around and say, "Hey there, you smell like week? GTFO?" How do you combat a problem that walks in instead of happens in your place?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38330 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:33 pm to
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But in a lot of ways it's not the same. It is legal to consume alcohol in many places. A really lot of people have stopped driving drunk due to punitive measures in place. Many people uber now.

Bars and restaurants generally do not allow cigarette smoking. Most people follow those laws and don't try to light up there.

Weed is different. People sit in their car and light it up before they go to places. Then then walk in to all kinds of places reeking and obviously high. But they aren't actually caught in the act of consumption in a public place. They are doing it in their cars. Do store managers, bar bouncers, security guys go around and say, "Hey there, you smell like week? GTFO?" How do you combat a problem that walks in instead of happens in your place?
You’re kind of arguing both sides without realizing it. You say punitive DUI enforcement changed behavior and that smoking bans in bars work because most people follow the rules, which actually supports the idea that existing behavior standards can be enforced without creating a whole new category of laws. Then you pivot and claim weed is uniquely different because people smoke beforehand and walk in smelling, but that is basically the same enforcement model alcohol already uses.

Bars do not have to catch someone mid drink to remove them, they act on visible intoxication or disruption. If the issue is odor or obvious impairment at the door, that is still a behavior standard, not proof the framework fails. Right now the argument reads less like “this is logically different” and more like “this feels harder to deal with,” which is understandable, but it is not actually a contradiction of the original point about consistent enforcement.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89736 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:37 pm to
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It is now clear that many of these predictions were wrong. Legalization has led to much more use. Surveys suggest that about 18 million people in the United States have used marijuana almost daily (or about five times a week) in recent years. That was up from around six million in 2012 and less than one million in 1992. More Americans now use marijuana daily than alcohol.



I don't know about you guys but I'm not admitting to taking illegal drugs.


It's not like weed was hard to get before.



I believe there might be more people smoking, but I also believe not everyone that was smoking weed illegally is going around telling everyone they do. So those numbers aren't accurate.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89736 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:39 pm to
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Bars and restaurants generally do not allow cigarette smoking. Most people follow those laws and don't try to light up there.



Last time I was in Colorado I didn't smoke weed when they had no smoking signs, and yes even the motels have no smoking weed signs, so I didn't.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89736 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:41 pm to
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yet these threads are always filled with people who live in Louisiana bitching about the smell



What everyone bitches ab with marijuana is usually because one race has to be loud with everything they do.


And Louisiana has a lot more of that race compared to just about every state.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle
Member since Jan 2023
8153 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Each year, nearly 2.8 million people in the United States suffer from cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, which causes severe vomiting and stomach pain.

How many people, each year, wake up vomiting with a headache after drinking too much?

Lmao
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41210 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:44 pm to
It was a lot cooler when you had to be sneaky
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38330 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:50 pm to
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t was a lot cooler when you had to be sneaky
True but I think making it less cool is a good thing.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13428 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:00 pm to
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Why do people hate criticisms of something that is clearly causing an epidemic upon young males in this country?


I'll give you one guess.

Here's a hint: It's the same people who insist that people driving stoned are "better drivers" because they are "more careful."
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23282 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:38 pm to
Here is another hint: Would you rather have a stoned driver or a drunk driver.

What a stupid fricking hill to stand on.

I work in medicine in in my 21 years, I've never ever taken care of a person late a night who came into the ER simply because they killed someone because they were high on THC. Meth...sure. Opiates...sure. Alcohol....Definitely. But just a pothead.....NEVER.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 6:40 pm
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