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NY Times - Retail Chains Abandon Manhattan: ‘It’s Unsustainable’
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:26 pm
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Of Ark Restaurants’ five Manhattan restaurants, only two have reopened, while its properties in Florida — where the virus is far worse — have expanded outdoor seating with tents and tables into their parking lots, serving almost as many guests as they had indoors.
“There’s no reason to do business in New York,” Mr. Weinstein said. “I can do the same volume in Florida in the same square feet as I would have in New York, with my expenses being much less. The idea was that branding and locations were important, but the expense of being in this city has overtaken the marketing group that says you have to be there.”
Even as the city has contained the virus and slowly reopens, there are ominous signs that some national brands are starting to abandon New York. The city is home to many flagship stores, chains and high-profile restaurants that tolerated astronomical rents and other costs because of New York’s global cachet and the reliable onslaught of tourists and commuters.
But New York today looks nothing like it did just a few months ago.
In Manhattan’s major retail corridors, from SoHo to Fifth Avenue to Madison Avenue, once packed sidewalks are now nearly empty. A fraction of the usual army of office workers goes into work every day, and many wealthy residents have left the city for second homes.
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For four months, the Victoria’s Secret flagship store at Herald Square in Manhattan has been closed and not paying its $937,000 monthly rent. “It will be years before retail has even a chance of returning to New York City in its pre-Covid form,” the retailer’s parent company recently told its landlord in a legal document.
“In the prime real estate areas, all the stores rely on having half international tourists and half local tourists or those from the local neighborhoods,” said Thiago Hueb, a founder of a jewelry company who had decided to close his flagship store on Madison Avenue before the pandemic struck because of high rents.
Now brokers are calling him trying to lure him back to the block, but Mr. Hueb, whose jewelry is sold in 80 department stores nationwide, is not interested.
“The avenue is no longer what it used to be,” he said.
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
Did they cite the riots and looters as cause for the abandonment as well?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
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and many wealthy residents have left the city for second homes.
Must be nice to be a rich Democrat. You can virtue signal into oblivion and then have an easy escape route when it backfires.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
Couldn’t happen to a nicer place.
enjoy the consequences of your own actions NYC.
enjoy the consequences of your own actions NYC.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
And in typical smug New York fashion, the comments are all "good, we don't need those stores! This opens up room for creative and diverse businesses!"
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
Was in NYC recently. Restaurants just now can open but must be outside seating only or delivery.
So much about what makes New York great is it's dynamic, "do anything, anywhere, anytime," setting.
Right now, I bet it's a helluva burden for folks. Manhattan's density is what supports its businesses.
Once COVID passes, the city will once again thrive in the restaurant/hospitality/retail arena. But for the next 9-18 months, a lot of doors are going to shut. This is no surprise.
Also, for those that think NYC is going anywhere, let's just say that's pretty short sided. If New York does, heaven forbid collapse... well, we are all in deep, deep trouble.
So much about what makes New York great is it's dynamic, "do anything, anywhere, anytime," setting.
Right now, I bet it's a helluva burden for folks. Manhattan's density is what supports its businesses.
Once COVID passes, the city will once again thrive in the restaurant/hospitality/retail arena. But for the next 9-18 months, a lot of doors are going to shut. This is no surprise.
Also, for those that think NYC is going anywhere, let's just say that's pretty short sided. If New York does, heaven forbid collapse... well, we are all in deep, deep trouble.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Victoria’s Secret
Have to sell a lot of bras and panties to afford that rent.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
Make stupid decisions live with the results, imagine owning some 10 million dollar apartment that’s worth a fraction of that overnight
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:31 pm to Centinel
How can you lose a restaurant with a menu like this and be happy??

Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
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in Florida — where the virus is far worse
I haven't really paid attention nationally, is Florida really having a far worse time with covid than NY?
ETA: haven't really paid attention to specific states #s
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
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its $937,000 monthly rent
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:34 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Did they cite the riots and looters as cause for the abandonment as well?
They never do, which is just so transparent.
I've seen multiple articles about business and resident departures in NYC, Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, and all of them pretend that COVID-19 is the sole basis for all the moves. It's absurd.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:35 pm to burdman
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I haven't really paid attention nationally, is Florida really having a far worse time with covid than NY?
Florida has 8500 deaths...New York has 32,500 deaths
Yep, Florida is so much worse
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is part of DeBlasio's plan.
He's overtly stated that he wants the city to buy all the properties abandoned during the pandemic to convert them into affordable housing
He's overtly stated that he wants the city to buy all the properties abandoned during the pandemic to convert them into affordable housing
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Victoria’s Secret flagship store at Herald Square in Manhattan has been closed and not paying its $937,000 monthly rent
No wonder Victoria Secret uses plus size models. They have to upsell those larger panties to pay the rent.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:36 pm to jchamil
Apples and oranges. The state’s populations aren’t even close
Wait what
Wait what
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:37 pm to upgrayedd
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He's overtly stated that he wants the city to buy all the properties abandoned during the pandemic to convert them into affordable housing
Oh god please let him do this.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:37 pm to Sun God
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How can you lose a restaurant with a menu like this and be happy??
It's amazing how someone's douchiness can ooze through a fricking menu
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:37 pm to jchamil
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Florida has 8500 deaths...New York has 32,500 deaths
Yep, Florida is so much worse
Thanks. I figured that was hyperbole, if not a flat out lie, but hadn't followed the specific #s in those states.
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