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re: NY Times - First time in modern American history, more young Christian men than women

Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:45 am to
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16620 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:45 am to
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ells them that they may not teach men and should instead remain silent,


What's irritating is the false prophets who take verses out of context and use it to oppress women. If anything, Jesus' ministry was the only one that welcomed women as leaders and lifted them up. Fore example, Mary Magdalen was a whore before she met Jesus and He used to do many great things.

Don't blame Jesus for people perverting the word of God his what he taught. If these women were serious about seeking spirituality, they don't have far to look.
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
8330 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:00 am to
God bless our youth; may those who don’t know Him come to find Him, Amen!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32888 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:04 am to
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What's irritating is the false prophets who take verses out of context and use it to oppress women. If anything, Jesus' ministry was the only one that welcomed women as leaders and lifted them up. Fore example, Mary Magdalen was a whore before she met Jesus and He used to do many great things. Don't blame Jesus for people perverting the word of God his what he taught. If these women were serious about seeking spirituality, they don't have far to look.

I think Christianity would be in a much better place dogmatically if the “divinely inspired word of god” ended with the gospels and the rest of what is now the NT were treated like the Sunnah/Hadith in Islam. By giving the authority of divine inspiration to all of it, Christianity got painted into some tricky corners from the perspective of dogma.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36224 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:09 am to
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Explain this.

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Opening more official roles to women, though, may not win them back: Many of the largest liberal denominations that ordain women are in steep decline.



I’d also say that religion by its nature is more conservative. When you have denominations becoming a “liberal denomination”, you will likely see people leaving for more conservative options.
Basically, they are the Bud Light of religion and their ad campaign isn’t bringing in new followers and the more conservative people are boycotting it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:09 am to
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I think Christianity would be in a much better place dogmatically if the “divinely inspired word of god” ended with the gospels and the rest of what is now the NT were treated like the Sunnah/Hadith in Islam. By giving the authority of divine inspiration to all of it, Christianity got painted into some tricky corners from the perspective of dogma.


No, Christianity would have been better dogmatically had it remained united and not allowed everyone to become their own pope during the Protestant Revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries. Everyone thinks they have the right answer, but the right answer was staring them in the face this whole time but they rejected it out of pride/suspicion of authority.

You can draw a clear line from Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin to the state of Christendom in 2024.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:11 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:18 am to
Women have changed out religion for politics, this isn't hard to understand. The real question is if they are ready for the hard times their political choices are going to bring economically. Men, raise your sons to respect themselves and avoid vapid, materialistic partners (while also not becoming one themselves). The current dating market is comical with the amount of utter dog shite men are willing to put up with just to get their dick wet if they aren't the top 10 percent is laughable.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:22 am to
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I always got the impression that following christ meant I could sin and then use the excuse that we are all imperfect children of Jesus or some other horseshite as to not take accountability.


did a priest touch you?

This would hold water if the non-religious were showing some sort of trend of self accountability but alas here we are in a world of vapid materialism. This is coming from someone who doesn't attend church, nor is actively looking for a church.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39658 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:25 am to
I'm not going to argue with you, but your take about me is completely incorrect.

The women in my life, especially my wives, are extraordinarily strong and were and are, a rich blessing to me, and they completely agree with and understand my thoughts.

Have a nice day.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4619 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:43 am to
Is this really a shocker? Gen Z white women are being indoctrinated with radical ideas of feminism and some ideologies at high schools and universities. Social media has amplified this to an extreme degree.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74897 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:48 am to
The crop of Gen Z dudes are so bad that the Gen Z women have gone to God to help them.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45571 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:49 am to
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Following Christ requires one to be accountable for his or her actions, something Western women have no interest in.


I always got the impression that following christ meant I could sin and then use the excuse that we are all imperfect children of Jesus or some other horseshite as to not take accountability.



Wait. So you're telling me going to church after leaving a Diddy freakoff doesn't make me square with the Big Guy upstairs?
Posted by Varro
Member since Aug 2024
4 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:57 am to
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Religion, IMO, is for people who were either indoctrinated young or needed the structure, values, and meaning it provides in adult life.


Do you genuinely think this is not insulting to religious people? How can you say this with the religious people in your life?

Do you think that little of them that they can't handle themselves and make decisions for themselves without being indoctrinated or relying on it as a crutch? Or do you think so highly of yourself?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:20 am to
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NY Times - First time in modern American history, more young Christian men than women



The NYT certainly celebrates this new wedge between men and women.

Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
3917 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:23 am to
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It is going to be weird when the tables turn on females being selective breeders.

When is chicken gonna open up the incel board?
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
1147 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:29 am to
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This is the exact shite. Do you genuinely think this is not insulting to women? How can you say this with women in your life?


I honestly fail to see how it could be insulting. I mean generally the man leads in the relationship as a natural course of action.
Didn’t you say in another thread a while ago that you were primarily raised by women? This would shine a light on some of the perspectives you may have.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6704 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:49 am to
Women leaving a religion that continues to molest their children and cover it up

Women are leaving a religion that teaches that women are submissive to men.

Women are leaving a religion that women can’t hold any position of power or leadership.


Shocked.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10057 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:16 am to
Women are corrupted by social media
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
6117 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:18 am to
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No, Christianity would have been better dogmatically had it remained united and not allowed everyone to become their own pope during the Protestant Revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries. Everyone thinks they have the right answer, but the right answer was staring them in the face this whole time but they rejected it out of pride/suspicion of authority.


LOL.

It’s like the Council of Chalcedon and 1054 never happened.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 11:19 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104094 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:21 am to
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You can draw a clear line from Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin to the state of Christendom in 2024.


The Catholic Church was corrupt as frick then and is still pretty goddamn corrupt today.


I don’t think the problem is Luther at all, it’s that being head of a powerful organization almost inevitably leads to corruption.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
550 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:28 am to
Speaking as a woman...men and women were created differently. Men are designed to protect and lead their families. Women are designed to nurture. It has not ever been about women being inferior to men, it is about natural order. Men who abuse that position are just as wrong, but that doesn't mean that the design is wrong.
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