re: NY Times - First time in modern American history, more young Christian men than women

Where is the gif with the woman driving shouting "Whore" ?

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Do you think that little of them that they can't handle themselves and make decisions for themselves without being indoctrinated or relying on it as a crutch?

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Yes. I do

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I know many will just fall back on the “lol whores” angle, but most religions are fairly overtly patriarchal by design. Now, I’m not making a value judgment on whether that’s good/bad/right/wrong, but once you remove (most of) the social stigma that would come from refusing to belong to the local religion, young women are probably going to be less interested in a religion that, for example, tells them that they may not teach men and should instead remain silent, than young men will. Not exactly rocket surgery.

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I think there is some truth in that. The dominant voices in female culture are all more or less telling women to deemphasize family, not to settle, that the most rewarding thing you can do is speak your truth and ignore your innate longing for companionship and motherhood so you can be a girl boss, etc. That, paired with the traditional structure of most Christian practices, is definitely having an impact.

But I think the other side is the guys. They're attached to the ancient, to the meaningful, to the more substantive in a society where women are chasing social media likes and the culture is telling them to be soft, don't take risks, loathe your innate tendencies, etc. So I think all things traditional, Christianity included, has increasing draw. And, there are voices in "male culture" promoting it into the mainstream more so than the female ones.

Now, the downside is a lot of the raw egg nationalist dumb influencer culture where Christianity as an idea set (rather than as a faith to be lived) are promoted as cool because they're a bulwark against political and social enemies. So I think there are valid reasons to be concerned about men being fed the artificial instead of the real, but I would certainly hope some of the interest is converted into genuine belief/faith for many.

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Women leaving a religion that continues to molest their children and cover it up Women are leaving a religion that teaches that women are submissive to men. Women are leaving a religion that women can’t hold any position of power or leadership. Shocked.

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Women are leaving a religion that women can’t hold any position of power or leadership.

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And the ones that they do hold leadership positions in are collapsing.

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I don’t think the problem is Luther at all, it’s that being head of a powerful organization almost inevitably leads to corruption.

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The Catholic Church has gone through periods where reform was necessary and eventually made. The Church was going through a pretty awful period of corruption in the 11th century that finally came to an end with the papal reforms of Pope Gregory VII (1073-85). The corruption that had invested the Church during the Renaissance came to an end at the Council of Trent in the mid-16th century.

The problem with Luther is that he didn't reform the church; he started a revolution that invented doctrine and beliefs that had never existed prior to his movement.

But the overall amount is still declining.

Based. Love it.