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NTSB releases preliminary report from Lafayette plane crash on 12/28

Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:44 pm
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LAFAYETTE, La. (WAFB) - The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has released its preliminary report on the plane crash in Lafayette, that killed 4 passengers along with the pilot, back on December 28, 2019 at around 9:31 a.m.


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In the report, NTSB officials say the peak altitude the plane reached was 925 ft msl at around 9:20 a.m. that morning. Right after, the plane took a steep dive towards the ground.

NTSB analysis reveals the airplane, owned by Cheyenne Partners LLC, continued to roll to the left at a steady pace, of an average rate of 2 degrees per second. “At the peak altitude of 925 ft msl at 09:20:40, the roll angle was about 35° left, the track angle was about 200°, and the airspeed was about 172 knots. The airplane then started to descend while the left roll continued, and the airplane reached a roll angle of 70° left at 09:20:52, while it descended through 600 ft msl, between 2,000 and 3,000 feet per minute,” according to the NTSB report.

According to the FAA, a low altitude alert was issued by the air traffic controller to the pilot when the plane was heading down. However, the pilot did not respond. There was also no mayday or emergency transmission from the pilot as well.

“Several witnesses stated that it sounded as if both engines were at a high rpm. Multiple witnesses observed the airplane appear out of the low cloud bank in a steep, left-bank turn. One witness stated that the airplane rolled wings level just before it struck the trees and transmission lines on the south edge of Verot School Road,” the report clarified.
The plane continued to land across the USPS parking lot, where 2 USPS employees suffered minor injuries from flying glass inside the building



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The right wing, the outboard left wing, both engines, both elevator controls, the rudder, the instrument panel, and forward cabin separated from the main fuselage and pieces were located in the debris field. The main wreckage consisted of the main fuselage and the inboard left wing,” said the report.


Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:47 pm to
Did the pilot have a heart attack or something?
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 11:09 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:49 pm to
Didn't this exact thing happen to that plane that crashed in Dallas?
Posted by LSU4ever2002
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:49 pm to
Certainly sounds like something happened to the pilot.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Did the pilot have a heart attack or something?

Exactly what I was wondering. Initially I was thinking engine failure but if both engines were running at high RPMs that doesn't sound like engine failure. Plane rolled over until it didn't have enough lift to remain airborne then dove into the ground.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:50 pm to
That was my first thought. Engines at high RPM would lead you to believe that it wasn’t engine trouble unless it was banking hard left because one of the engines was out.

Someone that understands planes better would have to comment.
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:51 pm to
I'm guessing heart attack. My great uncle flew B24s in WW2, and always had a private plane. He had a heart attack shorty after takeoff and went down just like described above.
Posted by WillyLoman
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:52 pm to
70 degree roll angle....had to be terrifying for those on board.
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:55 pm to
Are there any updates on the two who survived?
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:57 pm to
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One witness stated that the airplane rolled wings level just before it struck the trees and transmission lines on the south edge of Verot School Road


That action is probably the only reason there was any survivor.
Posted by MapGuy
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:58 pm to
he was in the plane

the lady in the car is on the road to recovery as well.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:01 pm to
It’s a legit miracle that anyone survived the fire, power lines, and ground impact.
Posted by Happygilmore
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:23 pm to
if they were in the fog they may not have even known
Posted by ItzMe1972
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:30 pm to
Full report:

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This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:36 pm to
Only the passenger who survived will be able to shed much more light on this.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Didn't this exact thing happen to that plane that crashed in Dallas?


The one in Addison? I thought that had engine issue almost immediately, banked left or didn't bank right towards working engine, yawed left, stalled, inverted, and then hit building basically within airport grounds.

You might be talking about another one actually in Dallas I have forgotten.

Posted by baldona
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:36 pm to
ETA: What's the normal behavior for a heart attack? I honestly don't know? 1000ft a minute decent doesn't seem that fast to me? Certainly seems plausible, just doesn't seem that likely that he would have a heart attack going up and then immediately go down after that?

The few times I've flown private planes you are basically watching the pilot and looking out the front constantly on take off. I'd think if something happened to the pilot someone would know immediately.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:38 pm to
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I'm guessing heart attack. My great uncle flew B24s in WW2, and always had a private plane. He had a heart attack shorty after takeoff and went down just like described above.




Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is this likely b/c takeoffs are high-stress situations for pilots of small airplanes in low visibility?
Just wondering if it's a physiological thing or something external like forces, pressure, etc?
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted by NOBOTIGER
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:42 pm to
He may have got into the clouds and just mentally shut down...
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