re: Nottoway Plantation on fire

That's a piece of history gone.

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A shite ton of them are spouting this on Facebook. It’s infuriating.

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The crazy thing is they are too fricking ignorant to understand all the tourism White Castle, a predominately black town, will lose now.

They don’t care about tourism dollars when their dollars come from the government.

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The crazy thing is they are too fricking ignorant to understand all the tourism White Castle, a predominately black town, will lose now.

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Or to think for 5 seconds of all the places built by slaves

The White House
The US Capitol
Harvard
Wall Street
The Smithsonian
University of North Carolina
The Roman Coliseum
etc
etc

Wonder if you'd see the same fanfare if these burnt down.

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the blacks are high fiving and celebrating

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It was a part of the better recorded periods of their history, good or bad. Now it's gone. Less of their struggles will be spoke of in the future. The next generations might simply say, "there is no evidence of this slavery you speak of." There will be no books, monuments, street names, or structures. Erased.

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Or to think for 5 seconds of all the places built by slaves

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Georgetown university, Egyptian pyramids, Great Wall of China, Mayan temples, Incan temples, poverty point, LSU burial mounds.

Probably the state of Georgia and the Continent of Australia

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That's a piece of history gone

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It saddens me so like Tezcuco
I took my nieces to both and those trips were wonderful.

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Hell…the river is 15 feet from the top of the levee. Run a couple hundred feet of hose over and start pumping. The water pressure thing has to be a joke, right?

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Not that easy to do. You can’t just drop a hose in the river and start pumping. It has to be hard drafting hose and most trucks, don’t have that capacity or very little if they do. Trucks that came in from other municipalities that are inner city prob have none. They would have to get the truck (s) on top the levy to draft and then pump from there via supply hose to the other trucks. The other factor that would be a hinderance is all the shite in the water. Drafting hoses would have a screen as well as screens on intakes but they would probably clog fast and often. You’d be fighting that more than the fire

Not sure about the pressure situation as well as the supply for that area but I’m sure it’s not unlimited. Figure a min 750 gpm pump per truck and the ladders are prob much larger. If you are using 20k gpm, I’m sure the supply can’t keep up for 4 hrs.

Also as far as sprinklers go, a 3” line is def large enough for sprinkler systems. A system that would be designed for that house would be a wet pipe system and have a design and flow calculations of so many heads flowing at one time but that’s considered worse case scenario. Those systems aren’t like you see in the movies where you have a fire and every head dumps water through the whole system. They are heat activated and will activate when a temp is met on that head. The method behind them are to stop a fire in the smaller stage in a smaller area so it won’t spread. 50# of pressure flowing through a .15” hole will def put out some water and is adequate.

I’d be shocked if the cabins and restaurant etc didnt have sprinklers and alarm systems.

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Anyway they could/would completely rebuild it in replica onsite?

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Alot will depend on insurance. But it’s a very expansive complex of buildings. Most of which are worth next to nothing without Nottoway being there.

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You can’t just drop a hose in the river and start pumping. It has to be hard drafting hose and most trucks, don’t have that capacity or very little if they do. Trucks that came in from other municipalities that are inner city prob have none.

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I’ll go back a ways. In 1989, Exxon had a Christmas Eve explosion. A ship had just docked there. I had talked with the Captain about staying, using the ship to draft water out of the Mississippi River. We would then hook their connections to the fire water system, all docks have a universal connection. But the Captain, decided to have us release his ship, and anchor below the I-10 bridge. They also have at times harbor tugs with fire fighting equipment. Too many things come into play.

I guess after this, a review will be done, having made sure, fire prevention and response changes with these.


Back in the early 80’s, a ship load of gasoline was bought from overseas, by Exxon. The ship was to unload around the New York area, it had to be diverted to BTR for unloading. The further South it got, the temperature had the cargo expanding. The ship came up the Mississippi with its fire nozzles pumping water from the river cooling the deck of the ship.

Because saltwater is denser (1025 kg/m3) than fresh (1000 kg/m3), objects, including humans, are better able to float in saltwater. So when a ship comes up the Mississippi, hitting the freshwater, it sinks a little.


The I-10 bridge by water, is 230 miles from the mouth of the Gulf of America. Ships enter the Southwest Pass.

Just a little trivia.

Enjoy your day.