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re: Notre Dame cathedral is burning down

Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
There will not be a lack of funds for this. That I promise you.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Dude, that is ridiculous. Some things saved? Sure. All art & treasure saved? Please.

Where are you getting your talking points?
Pictures shown on tv look like much will be spared.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:31 pm to
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The prosecutor is talking out of his arse. No way he can rule out anything. Ridiculous on its face.


If you ever find yourself in France, watch the local news.

It’s like anchorman.

Every day is a good day.

They don’t report bad news, unless they have to.

I was in Tours last August and a van rolled up at the church I was visiting. Four older police officers jumped out, and preceded to clear the building. They had serious gear too - one was carrying a grenade launcher.

They didn’t find their man, and quickly moved on, but you could hear sirens into the night.

Zero coverage on the news.

And that’s just the way it is.

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And that’s not to say this is terrorism, a contractor error seems more likely, but it France is a place where problems are politely hushed up.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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They don’t report bad news, unless they have to.



I think today would qualify
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:34 pm to
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There will not be a lack of funds for this. That I promise you.



Agreed

Cool to see people from all over the world offering to pitch in to help the cause.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76135 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:35 pm to
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I remember being there as a 17 year old kid on a HS Easter break trip in 1969.
Just about as much time has passed since your Easter visit as had passed then since the end of WWI.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Pictures shown on tv look like much will be spared.


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Some things saved? Sure. All art & treasure saved? Please.


It is nice that some things have been saved. But the cathedral took 150+ years to build. The damage is colossal.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Agreed

Cool to see people from all over the world offering to pitch in to help the cause.



I’m Catholic, and I don’t see the need for this if it’s state owned
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:38 pm to
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The BCS would have never let Notre Dame burn.

Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:41 pm to
I know they will do a good job trying to get it back to where it once was








Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42886 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:45 pm to
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#BREAKING French billionaire Pinault pledges 100 million euros towards rebuilding Notre-Dame, according to statement


I, too, pledge 100 million euros. I challenge S and Paul Allen to do the same
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148000 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:49 pm to
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The Parisan prosecutor's office said they've ruled out arson and terrorism for now. Suggesting it's something else is speculation. If you can't understand why any reputable news anchor would out a stop to speculation, I can't help you.

The prosecutor is talking out of his arse. No way he can rule out anything. Ridiculous on its face

maybe 1 of the construction guys came up to police and said "hey... I was in there doing some welding and a beam caught on fire and I GTFO and called the fire dept"
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103800 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:51 pm to
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They have separation of church and state


You have to figure this is more than a religious thing as well. This is a historical building that many non Catholics and non believers will want to see preserved for the artistic and architectural significance
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:52 pm to
You aren’t going to convince the “it’s muslims” crowd
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41491 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:55 pm to
I will absolutely be donating tomorrow if it comes public
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:56 pm to
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You aren’t going to convince the “it’s muslims” crowd

Well, you have to choose which is more common and the simpler solution:

1. Vandalism of French churches, which has been increasingly common,

Or

2. Fires during restorations.

Occam’s razor and all that jazz.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:57 pm to
Ill go on record saying it wasn’t done on purpose
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79743 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:58 pm to
If it were muslims at least they were covert and did the dirty work in the construction area while the church was empty.

Opposite of ever other terrorism they have done.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Ill go on record saying it wasn’t done on purpose

That is fine. Scruffy has no clue what happened.

The French government will never be honest about it either.

We don’t know what happened, but people acting like the “restoration construction fires are common and Occam’s razor” are just flat out wrong if you actually apply that principle.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Opposite of ever other terrorism they have done.
Well, it may not be Muslims, but churches within France have been vandalized frequently with the intent to destroy, not kill.

Fits the bill here as well.
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