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re: Notre Dame cathedral is burning down

Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:01 pm to
Churches within Louisiana have been lit on fire a lot this past coupke months.

If St Louis Catherdral burns tonight who will you blame?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:02 pm to
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The prosecutor is talking out of his arse. No way he can rule out anything. Ridiculous on its face.


This is why I said your insufferable. You don't know what he knows, but if he says anything but terrorism, you'll think he's lying.

If he said it was terrosism, your skepticism would be no where to be found.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79743 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:02 pm to
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The French government will never be honest about it either.



So if they say it is a terrorist attack you still wont believe them?

Might have a few craftsmen that have admitted they know how it started, but they aren't wanting to create targets.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111626 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:02 pm to
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but people acting like the “restoration construction fires are common and Occam’s razor” are just flat out wrong if you actually apply that principle.




Just seems like such a non sequitur. Place has been under some form of “restoration” for most of modern time. I was there in the early 90s and again around 2010, and there was scaffolding outside or inside both times.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:04 pm to
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If St Louis Catherdral burns tonight who will you blame?

Vegans
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Dude, that is ridiculous. Some things saved? Sure. All art & treasure saved? Please.

Where are you getting your talking points?


See, this is why few would debate how insufferable you are. Just an arrogant, ignorant fool on every board.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:04 pm to
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If St Louis Catherdral burns tonight who will you blame?
It has a high chance of being arson due to the frequency of recent arsons and vandalism.

If Occam’s razor is to be applied, arson is the correct path to start with.

Scruffy didn’t say it was Muslims, just that it is likely arson due to the frequency of recent arsons.

He probably should have replied to the post that whoever posted about the “it’s muslims crowd” responded too.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41868 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:06 pm to
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restoration construction fires are common


I mean...they're certainly not unheard of. Several old arse buildings around Europe have burned down or been significantly damaged as a result of something that occurred during restoration.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111626 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:06 pm to
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If St Louis Catherdral burns tonight who will you blame?




Mitch Landrieu
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79743 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:06 pm to
Haven't the rest been obvious arson, burning the front door and such.

This one was hidden arson disguised in an active construction area.

Does that still fit?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:06 pm to
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So if they say it is a terrorist attack you still wont believe them?
Tough question since that will reaffirm Scruffy’s beliefs.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:07 pm to
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If St Louis Catherdral burns tonight who will you blame?

That dude that knows where you got dem shoes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:07 pm to
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Well, it may not be Muslims, but churches within France have been vandalized frequently with the intent to destroy, not kill.

Fits the bill here as well.


Much of the vandalism is graffitti and other things with a clear message.

Burning the roof of Notre Dame, albeit destructive, lacks the message/symbolism of the other events. I realize it's Holy Week, but the fire wasn't even started in the chapel area.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
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Haven't the rest been obvious arson, burning the front door and such.
There was a wide range of damage, with some being within churches and not just external.

quote:

Does that still fit?
If the purpose was to destroy, sure.

Why wouldn’t it?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:08 pm to
I blame the pitbull owners
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:09 pm to
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If Occam’s razor is to be applied, arson is the correct path to start with.



I mean, that's completely false.

The least amount of assumptions is to believe the restoration crew/effort started the fire. They factually exist in this situation.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77963 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:09 pm to
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they're certainly not unheard of.
Sure, but it isn’t as common, which is the point.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79743 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:09 pm to
Hiding it in a construction area means that the powers that be can hide it.

The whole point of terrorism is to envoke terror.

No injuries, no fright. Not very effective terrorism.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:10 pm to
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I blame the pitbull owners

Vegan pit bull owners
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4899 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:10 pm to
Someone on my facebook is spouting racism over the fact that white people care more about a foreign church in France over the three black churches burned down in St. Landry parish.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:13 pm
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