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re: New York banning small shampoo and conditioner in hotels

Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14043 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:22 am to
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With all the crap going on in this world, the legislature in New York took the time to ban small toiletries in hotels to reduce waste. Since most of the people in hotels in New York are travelers, they will just bring their own small bottles. Because 3oz is all you can carry on a plane. Makes no sense.


Makes plenty of sense when you consider that all of those plastic bottles wind up in the garbage and the local taxpayer has to foot the disposal bill while out of state and out of town visitors go home without a care in the world. It'd be better to add a tax to the smaller bottles but the same people who bitch about banning them would bitch about that as well and, in the ultimate of irony, bitch about paying for the landfill.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47798 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:26 am to
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Makes plenty of sense when you consider that all of those plastic bottles wind up in the garbage and the local taxpayer has to foot the disposal bill while out of state and out of town visitors go home without a care in the world. It'd be better to add a tax to the smaller bottles but the same people who bitch about banning them would bitch about that as well and, in the ultimate of irony, bitch about paying for the landfill.


I would imagine that new york has some type of hotel tax already that should be covering this. single use bottles have been a thing in hotels for ever. its just stupid bullshite.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38708 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:26 am to
Spot on. Of the things to complain about NY this is not them. The only reason for them to keep these bottles is women feeling like their high priced hotel room is worth it
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61832 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

With all the crap going on in this world, the legislature in New York took the time to ban small toiletries in hotels to reduce waste. Since most of the people in hotels in New York are travelers, they will just bring their own small bottles. Because 3oz is all you can carry on a plane. Makes no sense.



Symbolism over substance. And the beat goes on……And the beat goes on……
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7178 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:34 am to
Hotels have been moving away from those bottles for years as a cost saving measure. They have been putting refillable pump bottles of shampoo, conditioner, and body wash on the shower walls.

Even nice hotels in Los Angelas have been doing that for 10 years. It isn't something that should require legislative action though, that is stupid.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61433 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:39 am to
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but New York is waaaayy cleaner and safer than it’s been in the past. Some of us are old enough remember how New York used to be
damn. My first trip was last year. And if that is clean I don’t wanna see dirty.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10500 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:40 am to
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Since most of the people in hotels in New York are travelers


No shite, Sherlock. Most people in hotels anywhere on earth are travelers. That’s the point of staying in a hotel. You’re traveling and need a place to stay because you’re not close to home. Do they think people stay in hotels just for the fun of it?

The only exception I can think of is when people go to a hotel to meet up with a hooker.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177309 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:42 am to
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Me too, but my wife hates them...thinks that people could sabotage them or something.

People probably jizz in them
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 9:44 am to
The wall dispensers are far superior in hotels anyways.

Plus hotels can save money with them and then donate the unused mini bottles to a homeless shelter and write it off as a charitable donation. Win/win for them.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:16 am to
I haven't seen a tiny shampoo bottle in a hotel in years.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2638 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 10:58 am to
Many of the recent nice hotels I have stayed in have much larger bottles, some with dispensers. I would hope that their reasoning is to make the hotels upgrade to larger bottles and not just put the responsibility on the guest.

I stayed at a 5 star hotel in Austin last year. You could tell it was run by virtue signaling people. There were so many expected amenities that were non existent. It basically felt like a two star hotel. There was no ice machine, no room service, a minimal amount of towels, and little water.

It was surreal.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63319 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:00 am to
Wait until they find out what the “big” bottles are made from.
Posted by guzziguy
Lake Forest
Member since Jun 2022
993 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:14 am to
Saw on the news this morning where NYC just now rolled out trash containers.
The dopey mayor is so happy he won't see trash bags on the street anymore.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21657 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:34 am to
I think it’s more about the insane NY lawmakers passing the ban and then later claiming that it was their policy that drove the change in hotels when hotels started the transition years before.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26487 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:39 am to
Dems in NY have complete control of state government so it becomes a hot house of ideological delusion.

They want to stop natural gas and convert to all electric thinking it will save money and the planet. However, electric heat and hot water in NY costs 5 or 6 times that of natural gas and almost half of the state's electric power comes from natural gas.


Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5172 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:41 am to
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Every hotel I’ve stayed in for the last few years has had these.
Yep. London, Paris, Honolulu, Cancun, and even Shreveport—all hotels have had the pump dispensers at least since the pandemic. Last time I remember the little bottles was a rebranded Motel 6 in Lake Charles where I stayed a few weeks doing Hurricane Laura restoration.

Place was a shithole before the storm. After the storm, my company pulled tarps over the damaged roof and placed a diesel generator in the back: Presto, instant housing for 100 or so of us. Beds were crap. Ceiling leaked. Only good part was running A/C.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17135 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 11:44 am to
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Last hotel I stayed at had the pumps in the shower.



Thats a no from me dawg.

No telling what some pervert put in it.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:37 pm to
Some decent hotels already have built-in shampoo and soap dispensers in the bathrooms.

With no tiny bottles to steal of flush down the toilets this will probably save the hotels money in the long run.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:38 pm to
The hotels i've stayed in now just have larger refillable dispensers. It's no big deal at all.

Edit: I didn't read the thread first.
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14043 posts
Posted on 7/11/24 at 12:42 pm to
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I would imagine that new york has some type of hotel tax already that should be covering this. single use bottles have been a thing in hotels for ever. its just stupid bullshite.



Just because single use bottles exist there is no indication that existing hotel taxes cover the costs of disposal. It make no difference whether they do or do not it still costs something to dispose of those bottles. Banning them means the taxpayers aren't footing that bill thus the hotel tax goes further to cover the costs of governing travelers. Thats a win for the local taxpayer anyway you slice it. Some folks would bitch if you hung them with a brand new rope....
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