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New study: Covid goes for Heme, causing lung inflammation

Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:32 pm
Link to techstartups.com

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new findings from a new study released by Chinese researchers, Dr Wenzhong Liu from Sichuan University and Dr Hualan Li from Yibin University. Their research, which is published a few days ago in ChemRxiv, revealed that the Sars-CoV-2 coronavirus attacks hemoglobin in the the red blood cells through a series of cellular actions, that ultimately renders the red blood cells incapable of transporting oxygen. This is huge: “ultimately renders the red blood cells incapable of transporting oxygen.” This could explain why some COVID-19 died after being taken into the ICU. In addition, it seems that using ventilator may be doing much damage to COVID-19 patients...

Earlier studies also find that the novel coronavirus enters epithelial cells through the spike protein interacting with the human ACE2 receptor protein on the surface, causing human infection. However, structural analysis of the spike protein (S) protein of the novel coronavirus reveals that the S protein only weakly binds to the ACE2 receptor
compared to SARS coronavirus. The researchers report demonstrates that the hemoglobin and neutrophil counts of most patients have decreased, and the index values of serum ferritin, erythrocyte sedimentation rate, C-reactive protein, albumin, and lactate dehydrogenase of many patients increase significantly.

In other words, the coronavirus sneaks into cells through ACE2 receptors in the lung tissues and attacks it and causes major damage while cytokine storms are creating more damage. This could also explain the symptoms with most COVID-19 patients, especially the inability for the body to get enough oxygen along with carbon dioxide build up that is creating the so called ARDS symptoms and stress.

This finding could provide a clue in providing the right treatment with drugs that target ACE2, or angiotensin converting enzyme-2, could be the key to unlocking either a coronavirus vaccine or a treatment for Covid-19. This new finding also shows that some of the current approaches to treating COVID-19 may be wrong especially the use of ventilators in a non-proper manner way that could actually aggravate already ‘injured’ and inflamed lungs.

“This trace implies that the patient’s hemoglobin is decreasing, and the heme is increasing, and the body will accumulate too many harmful iron ions, which will cause inflammation in the body and increase C-reactive protein and albumin. Cells react to stress due to inflammation, producing large amounts of serum ferritin to bind free iron ions to reduce damage. Hemoglobin consists of four subunits, 2-a and 2-ß, and each subunit has an iron-bound heme,” the study found.

“The attack will lead to less hemoglobin to carry oxygen and carbon dioxide. The lung cells have extremely intense inflammation due to the inability to exchange carbon dioxide and oxygen frequently, which eventually results in ground-glass-like lung images. Patients with respiratory distress will be made worse. Diabetic patients and older people have higher glycated hemoglobin. Glycated hemoglobin was reduced by the attack, which made patients’ blood sugar unstable. Since the porphyrin complexes of the virus produced in the human body inhibited the heme anabolic pathway, they caused a wide range of infection and disease,” the researchers said.

From their findings, the damage to coronavirus patients comes after the virus sneaks into the red blood cells, hijacks it, and removes the Iron ions from the heme groups (HBB) and replaces themselves with it. The attack prevents the hemoglobin unable to transport oxygen to other body organs. As a result, the lungs are stressed out and inflamed while the rest of the organs are also depleted of the much needed oxygen. The so called ARDS and subsequent organ failure could be attributed to this.
Posted by bigpapamac
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:34 pm to
Well if Chineses researchers say so...
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:37 pm to
Is GM still making ventilators?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:41 pm to
BUT MUH VENTILATORS!!


GOTTA HAVE 50,000,000,000,000,000 IN EVERY HOSPITAL
Posted by PCRammer
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:41 pm to
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virus sneaks into the red blood cells, hijacks it, and removes the Iron ions from the heme groups

So we all need to eat more iron ions...got it.
Posted by cable
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:42 pm to
They should know - they made the thing.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:43 pm to
Yeah, the whole ventilator shortage storyline didn't age very well did it?
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:43 pm to
Yeah but we've had docs here saying that's what they're seeing in their patients.
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:44 pm to
To the average person this means exactly jack, but if this is accurate, identifying the specific mode of attack the virus has on the body goes a long way to fine tuning treatment. I think we're already seeing improvements in treatment just from kind of slinging mud at the wall.
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:44 pm to
Now let us hear from other researcher. Just in case. These men I am sure are 100 percent accurate.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:45 pm to
that chick in the ebay thread must have had it bad!
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:47 pm to
Hence why hydroxychloroquine is able to help by preventing iron depletion from the cells and decreasing the cytokines storm. Once this has happened, the patient is out of luck, the damage has already been done and the med doesn’t help as much.
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:47 pm to
Wasn’t this already reported by other researchers?
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:47 pm to
Vitamin C hardens your cellular walls.
You need 5-6 grams per day to be absorbed into your body.

Zinc, d3 and chagga mushrooms (tea or capsules) are Very important to protect you.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:48 pm to
None of that shite is protecting you from this virus.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:49 pm to
"Mystery Virus X" that nobody seems to want to investigate from Dec/Jan. Remember that? The most alarming symptom my wife suffered (it was so bad she went to a doctor) was a large die-off of white blood cells. Just throwing it out there.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Hence why hydroxychloroquine is able to help by preventing iron depletion from the cells and decreasing the cytokines storm. Once this has happened, the patient is out of luck, the damage has already been done and the med doesn’t help as much



don't tell that to Dr.Fauchi. He said it doesn't do any good at all.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:50 pm to
But good luck finding Vit C & Zinc right now -- I've tried. Actually it's zinc that I'm having a hard time -- it's like 5-10 mg (not close to the 100 mg rec that I saw).

I do already take Vit D though.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Yeah, the whole ventilator shortage storyline didn't age very well did it?


it's almost as if this is novel virus & we're having to learn about it as we go.

This Monday morning quarterbacking shite from people like you wanting to score political points is nauseating.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Tiguar
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Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:52 pm to
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You need 5-6 grams per day to be absorbed into your body.


good luck with that

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However, at doses above 1 g/day, absorption falls to less than 50% and absorbed, unmetabolized ascorbic acid is excreted in the urine


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dont go taking 10grams of vitamin C a day because you think that's what youre supposed to do please
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 12:52 pm
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