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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:04 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:04 am to
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if you don't want to tip a performer, don't stop and look or acknowledge


If that's the case then whenever I'm in the quarter again I'll need to fix some Ted Mosbey style super bowl blinders so all I can see is the little bit of sidewalk in front of my feet.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:04 am to
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If this is the mans job he should have to put in all the necessary taxes.Medicare, social security, FICA

That has nothing to do with this thread.

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In my opinion once you acknowledge their existence you should probably tip, but if you decide not to he should not have the right to bitch you out.

Why doesnt he have the right to yell at you? Give me one good reason why. It works both ways. You have the right not to tip. He has the right to call you out on it. If you dont like it, don't take a picture.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:04 am to
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This thread is so New Orleans in the worst kind of way.


I bet I know where you got yo shoes
Posted by Coon
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:05 am to
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If that's the case then whenever I'm in the quarter again I'll need to fix some Ted Mosbey style super bowl blinders so all I can see is the little bit of sidewalk in front of my feet.


No idiot, just don't take their picture.

(Btw: if I saw someone walking through the quarter with Ted mosbey blinders on, I'd tip em!)
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:07 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:06 am to
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That would create effort, work, talent, etc. Did performer sew his own costume or make his own paint?


jesus dude

if you are not impressed with the performer's art, do not acknowledge or take a pic of it


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:06 am to
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If that's the case then whenever I'm in the quarter again I'll need to fix some Ted Mosbey style super bowl blinders so all I can see is the little bit of sidewalk in front of my feet.


ugh
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 am to
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It's not an argument of contracts or what is specifically owed.

the "contract" comment is more of a question of asking for a structured, established protocol that we all agree to

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Don't want to be called out, don't take pictures or interact with street performers and not tip. Simple as that.

i see it more as, "if you're going to try to make a living doing street art, don't feel entitled to a structured payment system, especially since you almost assuredly are a government leech in more than one way (not paying taxes, receiving public benefits, etc)"
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 am to
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Juggling? that's just throwing shite around


And probably 90% of the population can't do it more than 5 seconds

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Sing? that's just yelling


In tune in a pleasing manner

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Dance? anyone can move around


Move around well? Some can. Anyone can stand still.

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play an instrament? meh. i can strum a guitar.


And make pleasing sounds that people enjoy?


You try to downplay all of those, but the fact is that op performer did NONE of that. He stood still. I can do that. Literally, I can do what he did. I can't do all the other things above.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 am to
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if you are not impressed with the performer's art, do not acknowledge or take a pic of it


Pretty simple.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:08 am to
Last week this little kid came up to me on Canal Street and he made this 2 minute long rehearsed speech as we walked about being a cancer patient in remission and he was trying to raise money for some hospital while his fat mom walked behind us smoking a cigarette. I had to keep from laughing and used the "I don't have any cash" line. If he was for real him and his mom make it look like as much of a scam as possible.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:08 am to
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No idiot, just don't take their picture


I was responding to someone who said even acknowledgement deserves a tip. Even stopping for one second to glance in the fricking direction deserves a tip apparently since I'm acknowleding their presence and what they are doing.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:09 am to
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hat would create effort, work, talent, etc. Did performer sew his own costume or make his own paint?

Did the filmer make his own camera or sew his own costumes? No. SO invalid argument is invalid.

As for effort, work, etc. Painting yourself and standing absolutely still is effort and work.

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Doesn't relate to the OP's situation at all

Yes it does. Guy stands still, another guy takes picture and leaves. Same as guy makes movie, another guy films it and leaves.

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I would thank and be grateful to the ones that did, and pay no mind to the ones that didn't.

THat's your right. You can chase them or not. They can tip you or not. Again, you have an inability or a refusal to try and see the other side of the argument, which is why you argue like an a-hole instead of admitting there is merit to both sides.

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If someone sat down for 5 minutes and watched the movie then went on about their way I wouldn't be like "hey butthead, how about a little, ya know something for your time"


Which is not the situation here. The guy took a picture. If someone sat down and filmed your work then left you might want some compensation for that. You might not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:09 am to
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and used the "I don't have any cash" line.

mine is "i only carry plastic" to come off as a bigger a-hole
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:11 am to
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He stood still. I can do that. Literally, I can do what he did. I can't do all the other things above.


Congratulations on being untalented. So the only forms of entertainment to you are things you cannot do yourself?

And I'd bet alot of money you could not put on paint and make up and a costume and still for hours everyday in downtown new orleans. I'd love to see you try that.




Here are the facts in the OP:

Performer puts on a costume and performs by standing still as a statue.

OP comes by, sees him, recognizes him as a performer, enjoys it, and takes a picture. Then leaves without tipping the guy.

Performer calls him out on being a cheapskate.

OP cries.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:11 am to
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Even stopping for one second to glance in the fricking direction deserves a tip apparently since I'm acknowleding their presence and what they are doing.


that is not what I said

stopping and lingering, talking about it, taking a pic

that is "acknowledging" the act

this isn't really that hard of a concept to understand and I have no idea why you are arguing this

not impressed with the act? keep moving

impressed with the act? stop, take a pic, but tip the individual
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:12 am to
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mine is "i only carry plastic" to come off as a bigger a-hole


"Do you take Paypal?"
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:13 am to
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Painting yourself and standing absolutely still is effort and work.


Fine, let me rephrase for better wording. All of the above are skills. Juggling, singing, music, etc are skills. Not everyone can do them, it takes practice to get better, etc.

Painting yourself is not a skill. Yes there is "effort" involved in picking up a paintbrush and lightly dabbing it on your body, but it is not a skill.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:13 am to
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What is this thread about? I found it looking for the CWS thread where Leon Landry told BigJ to gfy.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:14 am to
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Painting yourself is not a skill. Yes there is "effort" involved in picking up a paintbrush and lightly dabbing it on your body, but it is not a skill.


you're missing the entire point
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:14 am to
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that is "acknowledging" the act

this isn't really that hard of a concept to understand and I have no idea why you are arguing this


He enjoys being a stupid a-hole
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