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re: New Orleans Street Performers that complain...
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:34 am to SneakySally
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:34 am to SneakySally
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SneakySally
quote:I bet you say that to all the guys
You have to hold my attention for 47 seconds to earn a tip
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:35 am to WG_Dawg
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I tip 20% minimum at all restaurants and barbers. I'm a great tipper, when people are providing me a valuable service that makes my day easier or does something I can't do myself.
Exactly. "Hey look, I'm a statue give me money" doesn't cut it for me.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:35 am to WG_Dawg
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Tell me what the performer did have previously, then OP took from him, to where he no longer had it anymore.
Is that your only qualification for requiring payment?
So there is no reason to pay for any art unless it is original and music has no value at all ever?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:36 am to SneakySally
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I view it more along the lines of begging in costume
Bingo
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:36 am to Breesus
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Is that your only qualification for requiring payment?
No doofus, I was responding to someone who said that something was taken from the performer.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:38 am to WG_Dawg
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No doofus, I was responding to someone who said that something was taken from the performer.
Entertainment was taken from the performer. He was entertained enough to take a picture and he should give the guy a buck for that. While he is not required to do so, he also isnt protected from being yelled at.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:40 am to Breesus
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He was entertained enough to take a picture and he should give the guy a buck for that
I thought this was pretty common knowledge, at least drop some loose change if you have it.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:43 am to LasVegasTiger
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I shoot a lot of the street performers and I tip them as well if they are good.
From OP, and I must say it sounds like the dude needs to work on improving his craft. Plus he lost a bunch of other tips likely when he broke character and started yelling at OP. I'll save my tip for someone who actually makes an effort.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:43 am to Breesus
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Entertainment was taken from the performer.
Nothing was taken from the performer, because he didn't do anything. If you want to call putting on different clothes than you or I would wear..well I don't call that doing something. And standing still certainly isn't doing something.
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While he is not required to do so, he also isnt protected from being yelled at
By your logic then anybody in a tip-based profession should have the right to follow people back to their cars and yell at them as well.
It goes back to an earlier point. Dude KNOWS what kind of "business" he is in. He gets no paycheck. He has no salary. He may get tips one day, or get none the next. That is the nature of his chosen path. Someone choosing not to tip him absolutely does not make him right for chastising op.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:43 am to SneakySally
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I view it more along the lines of begging in costume
Pretty much, no different than most of the folks on Calliope St anyway.
Should we tip the guys with Jesus crosses and signs that say "You're Going To Hell" if we want to take their picture as well?
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 7:48 am
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 am to lsuwontonwrap
I usually ask to see their last 3 years tax returns before I tip.
If they can't produce the tax returns, then no tip for you.
If they can't produce the tax returns, then no tip for you.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:46 am to theantiquetiger
If you took his picture, you should give him a dollar. Dude is just trying to make a living.
To quote one of the seminal works of our time: "You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an a-hole." - Jeffery Lebowski
To quote one of the seminal works of our time: "You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an a-hole." - Jeffery Lebowski
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:46 am to WG_Dawg
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By your logic then anybody in a tip-based profession should have the right to follow people back to their cars and yell at them as well.
sure why not?
luckily in this instance the guy was self employed, so he couldn't get fired
it is pretty shitty to take a pic of a street performer and not tip them, it's just a social etiquette thing
you are acknowledging his "art", whether you believe that it is art or not
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:48 am to WG_Dawg
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By your logic then anybody in a tip-based profession should have the right to follow people back to their cars and yell at them as well.
Wrong. But you do run the risk or retribution by not tipping. That's the point. You dont have to tip but dont be surprised if you get something in return. Like yelled at, or your food spit in.
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If you want to call putting on different clothes than you or I would wear..well I don't call that doing something. And standing still certainly isn't doing something.
The basic definition of performing : present (a form of entertainment) to an audience. Putting on a costume and make up and standing in a crowded area with the understood and expressed purpose of entertaining those people is most definitely performing and if you cant appreciate or understand that then there is no use arguing with you. I told you I understand where you're coming from. The tip is not required, but i then laid out my side. The inability to see the other side or admit that there is any merit in it means this is an exercise in futility.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:50 am to Breesus
A better question is "do these street performers pay taxes on the money they earn?"
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:50 am to Breesus
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ey aren't scenery. They are a person working for tips. And they absolutely draw a crowd. If they didnt, they wouldnt be there. So much ignorance and stupidity in this thread.
The OT brings a whole new level of ignorance and stupidity.
The performer is doing his "job." Give the guy a damn buck.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:51 am to Breesus
Entitlement culture is starting to hit our street performers. Makes me sad.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:51 am to Salmon
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you are acknowledging his "art", whether you believe that it is art or not
So acknowledgement is the criteria now? If two people were walking by and stopped and said "huh, would you look at that?" and kept going, should they have tipped too?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:52 am to shaqtaw
1099 only required if you pay him more than $600 so its probably all good.
If you give him more than $14,000, you'll have to pony up gift taxes.
If you give him more than $14,000, you'll have to pony up gift taxes.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:53 am to dafuqusay
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The performer is doing his "job."
And he knows witih 100% certainty that he doesn't get a paycheck and some people may not choose to tip him. The people (multitude of people actually, thousands) that choose not to shouldn't get followed and harrassed.
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