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re: New Orleans' Overall Crime Rate Has Fallen. Why Are People So dramatic?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Crime is down nationally. We can debate as to why (most likely a combination of Roe v Wade and in-home entertainment being relatively affordable), but don't confuse it with NOLA's government doing something right. It was still 4th worst in the US per capita in 2015.
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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that's right. But my point is that crime in NOLA is NOT getting more out of control, as many here proclaim.
OK fine. It isn't MORE out of control.
But it is no where near under control. That doesn't make it a less shitty place.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:18 pm to Asgard Device
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I'm glad the murder rate has gone down though.
You can't say that here. That's blasphemous on the OT
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Early 90s were peak or near downslope of crime for almost every American. Sociologist have tide it to 10000x different reason, even to say it's tied to the use of lead in gasoline LINK
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:19 pm to THRILLHO
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but don't confuse it with NOLA's government doing something right. It was still 4th worst in the US per capita in 2015.
I didn't. ANd I also said crime still remains a major problem in NOLA. But the haters conveniently leave that part out because it does not fir their narrative
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Bragging about the NOLA rate of murder going down is like a kid bragging about getting an F in school with a 59, instead of a 40. It's still a failing grade.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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But all the drama about it worsening is...well unfounded drama.
There needs to be drama about it, record rate or not. Even 100 is far too many. Plus I wonder how much the numbers might be fudged.
Does anyone know the rate of murder of a stranger now vs the 1990's? Is it expanding beyond the drug traders. I can recall being fairly safe in the French Quarter all hours of the night during the 1990's when the general NOLA murder rate was at an all time high.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:22 pm to LSU Tiger Jason
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I really hope you are a troll,
He is definitely a troll. After LSU won the BCS championship game in 2004, he trolled hard about USC being the true champion, split champion, etc. Even his username is an obscure troll at LSU being invited to the Tangerine Bowl and not a more prestigious bowl game. Eventually, people paid less attention to his posts and his posts became more and more disjointed and disturbing. Either he was banned or was smart enough to take a mental health break from TD.
A couple of years pass and he shows back up with a new troll shtick- social justice warrior with a case of white guilt. The guy doesn't believe what he posts. He's only looking for a reaction or an argument that brings him the attention he does not receive in real life. It's sad, actually.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:22 pm to Dire Wolf
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Early 90s were peak or near downslope of crime for almost every American. Sociologist have tide it to 10000x different reason, even to say it's tied to the use of lead in gasoline LINK
That makes more sense than abortion. Crime peaked around 1994, when the benefits should already have kicked in, as those born in 1973 would have been 21 years old.
Reduction of environmental lead came a few years later and would have been reflected in the crime rates of the late 1990s.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:22 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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But the haters conveniently leave that part out because it does not fir their narrative
I guess I am not following your logic here. You are arguing with people on the internet that are upset with murder and crime in a great city because you think it is a celebration that not as many murders happened than the year before?
This site is full of idiots.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:22 pm to Jake88
Most of the murders in the 90's were concentrated to Cain city.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:24 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Its from holding the pistol sideways.
and to those who say it's because of better medical care...
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:24 pm to BobABooey
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Eventually, people paid less attention to his posts
Like you're doing now?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:24 pm to Paul Allen
That's what I was saying.
Has the perpetrator vs stranger murders gone up now vs the 1990s?
Has the perpetrator vs stranger murders gone up now vs the 1990s?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:25 pm to Paul Allen
Comin right back, dis duh big chief for da' Cajun Cannin, your listening to duh Big 870......dubyadub eel
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:26 pm to Paul Allen
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Most of the murders in the 90's were concentrated to Cain city.
What area would that be considered now?
I'm assuming the crack epidemic hit it's high point in the late 90's and gangs were a much bigger piece of the problem than they are now.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:27 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Isn't population down since Katrina? And gentrification?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:29 pm to LSUTANGERINE
NOLA crime has been out of control for a long time. Just because we aren't setting record highs doesn't mean we aren't still the worst crime rate per capita in the country. Your post included significant evidence that we are still far and away the worst per capita, and that's a scary thought. Highest crime rate per capita means people in Nola are more likely to be the victim of violent crime than anywhere else in the country. That needs to be addressed, it's a very serious issue
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:29 pm to texashorn
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When you are able to define what the statistic even is in the first place, then you can manipulate it.
You can't easily manipulate murders and non-fatal shootings. Those are seen by the coroner and hospitals, so the reports are legit most of the time.
Most other crime stats correlate strongly with the murder rate.
Yeah, you can manipulate some small stuff and some stats (like rape) are not reliable. But murders are.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:29 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Isn't population down since Katrina?
rates are down too
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