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New Orleans levees sinking faster than planned
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:59 am
quote:NEW ORLEANS — This is the 14th hurricane season since New Orleans’ storm protection system of levees and floodwalls failed, the second since the Corps of Engineers completed an 11-year, $14.6 billion project to repair and restore that system.
“The fact that these levees won't be certifiable in four years is a travesty."
But the summer of 2019 brings with it a new level of concern. That’s because it’s the first hurricane season since the Army Corps of Engineers officially notified Congress that global sea-level rise and southeast Louisiana’s soft, subsiding soils have caused earthen levees to sink faster than expected, requiring another $800 million to meet the level of risk reduction it promised in 2007. Van Heerden said those new costs could have been avoided if the Corps had followed the advice in the Team Louisiana report to include “freeboard,” extra room at the top of the levees to account for anticipated sinking for the whole life of the project, through 2057.
“This is inexcusable,” he said. “When you have a $14 billion project, you build in freeboard.”
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:59 am to BowDownToLSU
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:12 am to BowDownToLSU
Jefferson Parish's levees are bigger than I've ever seen...
They were upgraded just last year...
They were upgraded just last year...
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:15 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:15 am to BowDownToLSU
These assholes are either fear-mongering to get billions more or they're coming up with excuses to get more funding because they did a shitty job on the last project and need to fix it
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:16 am to BowDownToLSU
All those people riding bicyles on top of it hasn't helped matters.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:16 am to upgrayedd
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These a-holes are either fear-mongering to get billions more or they're coming up with excuses to get more funding because they did a shitty job on the last project and need to fix it
Bingo...!!!
The levee board in Orleans parish is the most corrupt board in the city.. Possibly worse than the S&WB..
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:16 am to BowDownToLSU
All of SE LA is a lost cause. The sooner it is accepted and planning begins the better the state and country will be.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:22 am to GREENHEAD22
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All of SE LA is a lost cost. The sooner it is accepted and planning begins the better the state country will be.
Eventually, probably so. Levees are expensive but moving an entire city or two is way more expensive. I think it makes sense to keep things going for now
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:25 am to BowDownToLSU
If I had to flip a coin to see who goes first, Los Angeles or NOLA...
Not sure I'd gaf.
Not sure I'd gaf.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:26 am to GREENHEAD22
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lost cost
Lost Causeway.
From Mandeville to the Gulf.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:29 am to BowDownToLSU
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Van Heerden said those new costs could have been avoided if the Corps had followed the advice in the Team Louisiana report to include “freeboard,” extra room at the top of the levees to account for anticipated sinking for the whole life of the project, through 2057.
“This is inexcusable,” he said. “When you have a $14 billion project, you build in freeboard.”
Van Heerden was silenced and told to GTFO back when these projects were going on after Katrina.....he was very adamant that they weren't doing the job the correct way...
I want to say he was fired and threatened to keep his mouth shut...
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:31 am to tgrbaitn08
Yep...
LINK
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Ivor van Heerden holds a doctorate degree in Marine Sciences and was the deputy director of the Louisiana State University (LSU) Hurricane Center, before being dismissed by LSU with no reason given, following Hurricane Katrina. He is also the director of the Center for the Study of Public Health Impacts of Hurricanes.
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"What bothers me the most is all the people who've died unnecessarily."[11]
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"Those FEMA officials wouldn't listen to me. Those Corps of Engineers people giggled in the back of the room when we tried to present information."[11]
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When it was suggested that tents be prepared. "Their response to me was: 'Americans don't live in tents,' and that was about it."[11]
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"As a nation, let's take up the 'Rebuild!' battle cry. Now is the time to put politics, egos, turf wars and profit agendas aside. We owe it to the thirteen hundred Americans who died in the Katrina tragedy. We owe it to their survivors and to all future generations. It's now or never."[citation needed]
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:33 am to BowDownToLSU
Sounds like someone is looking for some more vacation money.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:33 am to Tiger Ryno
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All those people riding bicyles on top of it hasn't helped matters.
I would think a couple passes by the SUV's the Levee Board uses to patrol the levees does more harm than a years worth of bicycle riding.
Nice troll.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:34 am to GREENHEAD22
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All of SE LA is a lost cost. The sooner it is accepted and planning begins the better the state country will be.
Nature is going to win that battle. 100%.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:34 am to BowDownToLSU
Time to start picking and choosing what neighborhoods and towns will flood and let them go. South LA needs to begin coexisting with the river, not fighting it.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:39 am to BowDownToLSU
The Tragically Hip told us this years ago. New Orleans Is Sinking
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:40 am to BowDownToLSU
The Corps seems to only do jobs where they screw up and guarantee lots of future work. The entire levee scheme is a scam on the american people that could have been avoided.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:41 am to BowDownToLSU
nm
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 2:03 pm
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