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re: New Louisiana law aims to get taxes owed by online shoppers

Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:00 pm to
The collection bills are new, not the tax itself (which I said is it’s own argument.)

The need to collect it beyond the self reporting and what they get from amazon is what is new, desperate, and the state will no doubt completely frick up
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Sounds really simple but it isn't going to work like that. I buy a one time item and return it to a store I don't shop at. You think the State is going to take my American Express invoice word for it? No they will want a receipt which is something most people in Louisiana will lose or forget about.
I have no idea what you're saying here.

American Express does not give you an invoice. And why would you return an item you bought to a store you "don't shop at"?

And it is just a simple as I described it. I know because I've done it that way on my state income taxes for many years.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:07 pm to
So I’m supposed to go back and look at all of my online purchases from last year and pay taxes on them?

Go frick yourself, LA Gov.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:08 pm to
Good to see the state is focused on the real issues
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134940 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

The collection bills are new, not the tax itself (which I said it it’s own argument.)

The need to collect it beyond the self reporting and what they get from amazon is what is new,
Read the OP again. Based on what you, you misunderstand the process.

The retailer sends you a notification (NOT a "collection bill") of how much you spent using them and how much in sales taxes were not collected by them.

You should already know that amount because you've been responsible for keeping track of un-taxed purchases anyway.

So the only "new" part is the online retailer will let you know how much their records say you didn't pay sales taxes on.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33522 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
Gaucho your posting has taken a dive since LucasP committed sepuku. We need you to step your game up
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37080 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Nah, they only have to get a list of the purchasers with a Louisiana address from the online retailers.

How are they going to get this? Are they going to ask the internet to provide every website that shipped an item to Louisiana? How will the internet react to that request?
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:19 pm to
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The retailer sends you a notification (NOT a "collection bill") of how much you spent using them and how much in sales taxes were not collected by them.


Is there any guidance or parameters on the retailers' reporting requirements to customers (similar to 1099 requirements, i.e issue a 1099 to any vendor you paid $600+ to during the year)?

While 1099s are a federal rule, I cannot imagine the state having either the authority or ability to track/demand out of state businesses notify their customers, especially if they're out of Louisiana and not large commercial enterprises.

Louisiana isn't going to be able to track a $12 purchase someone makes on eBay, and isn't really concerned with this small stuff anyway. I imagine they're looking for commercial transactions over $10,000+ to even be worthwhile for enforcement.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:26 pm to
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So the only "new" part is the online retailer will let you know how much their records say you didn't pay sales taxes on.


It's the decades old no physical location, no tax loophole that ecommerce sites are using to avoid collecting tax, so the companies not charging tax should be out of state. How is the state of Louisiana going to get out of state companies to send a letter or email to customers on their behalf? They'd have to be targeting the handful of bigger sites doing enough business to threaten with legal action.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134940 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Are they going to ask the internet to provide every website that shipped an item to Louisiana?
Huh?

The link in the OP explains the process:
quote:

Under the new law, retailers also must send annual reports to the revenue department, which can cross-check the information with tax returns.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:30 pm to
What is state sales tax, 4.5%?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134940 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:31 pm to
Did you read the article in the OP's link? That's all the information I have.

I'm sure you could Google and get more information about the Louisiana law's requirements to answer your questions.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:31 pm to
I love when y'all forget that gaucho literally lies in every post. Y'all let him get you guys all worked up for nothing.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:33 pm to
How does the state of Louisiana have a right to that money if there is nothing about the sale that occurs in LA?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:35 pm to
I believe they call it a "Use Tax" because the item is delivered to and presumably used in this state.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:37 pm to
That's ridiculous. The delivery already involves taxes paid by the purchaser or the company, no?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134940 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:38 pm to
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How does the state of Louisiana have a right to that money if there is nothing about the sale that occurs in LA?
The law has required the online retailer to have a physical presence within the state in order for the retailer to collect the sales tax at the time of the sale.

With Amazon's purchase of Whole Foods last year, it means any state with a Whole Foods store now has Amazon located in the state.

However, if you buy something from a third-party vendor on the Amazon website and that outside vendor does not have a physical presence in Louisiana, Amazon is not required to collect sales tax at the time of purchase. That's when it's up to you to track your un-taxed purchase and report it when you file you Louisiana income tax return.

When you say "nothing about the sale that occurs in Louisiana," the buyer is located in Louisiana and the goods are being shipped to Louisiana.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by canteen
Member since Dec 2017
779 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:38 pm to
its about damn time our elected officials hold us accountable

who in the hell are we to deny those we elect their right to misuse appropriations coming from our tax $...?!

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:44 pm to
But the shipping process involves state taxes, doesn't it? My receiving the product in LA entitles the state to taxes how?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134940 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:50 pm to
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But the shipping process involves state taxes, doesn't it?
I have no idea what you're referring to. Sorry.
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