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New clues in D.B. Cooper case

Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:56 am
Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:56 am
Fascinating stuff. This case is one of the more intriguing unsolved crimes ever IMO.

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More than four decades later, three amateur scientists think they may have found evidence that would narrow down Cooper’s identity to that of an aerospace engineer or a manager.

To the naked eye, the piece of fabric was a nondescript black tie from J.C. Penney. But to the modern-day scientists, the tie was an “incredibly fortunate” piece of evidence in the investigation.

“A tie is one of the only articles of clothing that isn’t washed on a regular basis,” reads a section on the Citizen Sleuths website devoted solely to the tie. “It picks up dirt and grime just like any other piece of clothing, but that accumulation never truly gets ‘reset’ in the washing machine. Each of those particles comes from something and somewhere and can tell a story if the proper instruments like electron microscopes are used.”

Using a powerful electron microscope, the scientists say they have identified more than 100,000 particles of “rare earth elements” on the tie, including Cerium, Strontium sulfide and pure titanium, according to the Associated Press. Of those, titanium was the most notable.

“Titanium was a rare metal in 1971 and this makes it extremely unlikely it is a post-event contamination,” Citizen Sleuths notes on its site, which lays out in painstaking detail all of the findings from the case. “Its presence constrains Cooper to a limited number of managers or engineers in the titanium field that would wear ties to work.”

At the time, they noted, the element was used extensively by the military in aircraft and helicopters.

Scientists think he may have worked at Boeing, which at the time happened to be developing a Super Sonic Transport plane that used those elements, Tom Kaye, a lead researcher with Citizen Sleuths, told King 5 News.


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Posted by fisherbm1112
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:35 am to
I hope the other side of the story one day comes out. Hopefully the guy wrote some kind of memoir that he left behind or if he is still alive so we can here how close people came to figuring him out.
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Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:42 am to
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I hope the other side of the story one day comes out. Hopefully the guy wrote some kind of memoir that he left behind or if he is still alive so we can here how close people came to figuring him out.

Yeah this is one "bad guy" I would love to hear lived out his days on a beach in Mexico. What an awesome heist, straight out of Hollywood. Didn't hurt anyone. Just pulled one of the most daring capers in history. Most experts think he didn't survive the jump but no body ever found so...
Posted by Oswald
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:43 am to
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“Titanium was a rare metal in 1971 and this makes it extremely unlikely it is a post-event contamination,” Citizen Sleuths notes on its site, which lays out in painstaking detail all of the findings from the case. “Its presence constrains Cooper to a limited number of managers or engineers in the titanium field that would wear ties to work.”

Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:48 am to
interesting for sure, but we don't know where he got the tie
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:50 am to
Paul McCartney just moved up the suspects list....

Posted by airportwhiskey
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:51 am to
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amateur scientists


Thank God they're on the case.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:56 am to
Hmm. Here are some interesting tidbits though from Wikipedia that could possibly lend credence to this theory that he was in the industry:

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He also correctly mentioned that McChord Air Force Base was only a 20-minute drive (at that time) from Seattle-Tacoma Airport.

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Finally, Cooper directed that the plane take off with the rear exit door open and its staircase extended. Northwest's home office objected, on grounds that it was unsafe to take off with the aft staircase deployed. Cooper countered that it was indeed safe, but he would not argue the point; he would lower it himself once they were airborne.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:59 am to
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interesting for sure, but we don't know where he got the tie




Article says JC Penney...So he was fashion conscious
Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 7:59 am to
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Paul McCartney just moved up the suspects list....






Love that song. Especially the live version on Wings Over America.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:05 am to
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Cooper countered that it was indeed safe, but he would not argue the point; he would lower it himself once they were airborne.

a "Cooper vane" was devised and installed on all 727s after that to prevent opening the stairs in flight, was a simple disc on a swivel that would block the stairs from dropping after the aircraft reached a certain speed
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:10 am to
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Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:11 am to
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a "Cooper vane" was devised and installed on all 727s after that to prevent opening the stairs in flight, was a simple disc on a swivel that would block the stairs from dropping after the aircraft reached a certain speed

Seems like this would've been a no-brainer even before Cooper just for safety's sake.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:12 am to
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a "Cooper vane" was devised and installed on all 727s after that to prevent opening the stairs in flight, was a simple disc on a swivel that would block the stairs from dropping after the aircraft reached a certain speed



Wouldn't it be one of the mostest ironicalest things ever if THAT was a project he was working on???
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:13 am to
Josh Gates was on this
Posted by BobABooey
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:18 am to
I did it!
I did it!
I took the Lindbergh baby!
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:19 am to
Did they ever find a parachute anywhere? Whereabouts did he eject?
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 8:21 am to
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