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re: New $20 minimum wage for fast food workers in California is set to start Monday

Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:51 am to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30668 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:51 am to
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Stupid unskilled workers are going to price themselves out of the job market. Robots are coming.



Its not stupid unskilled workers pricing themselves out of the job market, it is "well-meaning" politicians buying more votes.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11213 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:51 am to
The kids in this thread better learn the importance of a free market or they are going to destroy their own futures.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39113 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:52 am to
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acknowledgement that many of the more than 500,000 people who work in fast food restaurants are not teenagers earning some spending money, but adults working to support their families.


This is the part that needs to get a lot more attention. How in the world are adults who support families so lacking in professional / labor skills that they need to resort to working in fast food?

We have massive openings in nursing, teaching, mechanics, a/c repair, plumbing, etc.

The only "adults" working in fast food should be management trainees, retirees, and those looking for part time or extra income. No one should be working long-term in fast food as their primary source of income.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:52 am to
You mean the market subsidized by the governments when boomers were working
?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12856 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:53 am to
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Almost every software you use is created or managed in CA. Even the servers that host the websites you like are serviced there. Your phone was designed there, so was your laptop pc etc

not by fast food employees.

My phone was designed by Samsung, not in California.
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1755 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:54 am to
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You want to use big words like purchasing power


Written by a guy who claimed to have a masters in economics
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:54 am to
Those jobs you listed require certain pre requisites. Fast food doesn’t. People with families or in poverty can’t shell out $$$$ to get educated. You want less adult fast food, make professional training free
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:55 am to
Samsung US headquarters is in CA. I know this because I lived near by.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39113 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:56 am to
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If you think the change that impacts roughly 50k or so people (or even less) of the lowest tax bracket will have a significant change in an economy of 50 million, I’d like to sell you some property


The only way to pay for this is to cut jobs or raise prices.

Cutting jobs hurts the employees this is meant to help.

Raising prices hurts all of their customers... which is a pretty big segment of the population. j
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12254 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:57 am to
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I have a masters in Econ and stats.

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make professional training free

What school issued you your degree in economics?
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:57 am to
Unless millions of people suddenly boycott McDonald’s, nothing will happen. Your bill will be 7% higher but you’re eating McDonald’s so won’t even be able to tell the difference
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:58 am to
The one that you couldn’t get into
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
1788 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:58 am to
I’ve only heard it a couple times on this thread. It’s not paying these people $20/hour, it’s the $17 bacon cheeseburger and the $8 large fry that will passed along to everyone. This will cause closures and layoffs.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39113 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:59 am to
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This is more likely to be better for ca than not. What’s the point of making so much money if all the lower income people can’t afford to live there and therefore leave?


Let's be frank.

The people who are making the money off of the backs of fast food workers don't care about if the lower income people leave (they won't by the way because they can't afford to) and don't need the extra money.

But... the way our system is set up... that is not what matters.

Yes, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and raising min wage does jack squat to actually fix any of that.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:59 am to
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How in the world are adults who support families so lacking in professional / labor skills that they need to resort to working in fast food?


Democrat policies.

Democrats have a need to keep their base perpetually poor, angry and stupid to ensure they keep their power via the ballot.

These fast-food workers fill that bill.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
129923 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:59 am to
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How in the world are adults who support families so lacking in professional / labor skills that they need to resort to working in fast food?



Because welfare cuts you off it you make to much so these jobs allow them to have some on the books income (which they'll get back in taxes), fulfill their work requirements, and still keep their benefits.

It's a system and they have it worked out.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:59 am to
Lefties call out the Right for "trickle-down economics" but never get called out for their "trickle-up economics," which of course always drops harder than the Rights trickle.

Now everyone in a business will have to get a raise. Democrats really are devilishly stupid.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69057 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:00 pm to
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make professional training free


Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5876 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:00 pm to
And that’s why government is intervening. We should see this as a positive for society unless you think all poor people should die
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92465 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 12:00 pm to
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