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re: Nevada Cops Use Civil Forfeiture To Steal a Veteran’s Life Savings

Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:51 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477183 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:51 am to
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Once you start CAF against Bill Gates, or Nancy Pelosi, or Zuckerberg, all of a sudden there will be legislation in Congress to bring it to a halt. But not a second sooner.


That massive seizure in LA proves this is somewhat incorrect. Lots of big wigs got millions stolen and there has been no change.

All that's happened is they've been permitted to fight for their property. No legislative change.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477183 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:51 am to
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SFP will agree with the state

Look at this smoothbrain
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39650 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:51 am to
"My dog alerted"

Of course he did, because you trained him to alert on command. He alerts whenever you want him to, just like my dog alerts when I go to the pantry.

Drug-sniffing dogs are great pets, but poor cops.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477183 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:53 am to
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Civil forfeiture should be outlawed

It just needs simple reforms based in logic, primarily a conviction then safeguards on the ability to seize it until after the post-conviction civil process is completed.

The larger question where there will be lots of debate is how much the government can restrict using that property in the interim. There is some fricked up case law from the federal system where the feds are permitted to seize/freeze money from Defendants, which prevented them from being able to hire defense counsel.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32888 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:53 am to
Civil asset forfeiture is evil and un-American, and the fact that it hasn’t been eliminated in roaring bipartisan fashion should tell you all you need to know about what the government, from federal to state to local, thinks of your rights.
Posted by LSU Tiger Jason
Member since Nov 2005
1175 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:55 am to
Eat shite
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16988 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:59 am to
Most cops don't give a frick if the laws they're enforcing are just or not. It's not their job to think.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39650 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:06 am to
When you incentive theft, you get thievery.

That's the first problem.

Drug dealers love CAF, b/c they can relinquish the goods in exchange for all charges dropped.
Cops keep the money and cars, drug dealers walk.

Win/win.

Just a cost of doing bidness...

Then cops found out they could steal as much as they wanted with zero repercussions under the guise of the "war in drugs" lol.


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35932 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:11 am to
Absolute tyranny. Civil forfeiture was one of the things that pushed me away from Republican Party to the libertarians 30 years ago. I’ve since come back but these are absurd laws that no one should support.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43922 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:17 am to
I'm slowly getting to the point where I hate these unelected bureaucratical corrupt füqs.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89076 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:24 am to
Our government has made it a crime to carry cash.

And don’t believe the gobbledegook they spew about “stopping drug dealers”. That’s their convenient excuse. It’s all about making sure they get their cut.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39650 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:29 am to
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making sure they get their cut.


quote:

Godfather1


Name checks out.


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:35 am to
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Don't really care about that but it was a pretty bad idea to tell the cop about the money.

Wait? This dude told the cop that he had that money in the car?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:43 am to
He should claim interest and a huge penalty since that’s what the IRS does.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73674 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:58 am to
He should be able to personally sue the cops who stole his money and drain every penny they have to their name, I mean completely bankrupt them. Take their house, vehicles, everything except the clothes on their back.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3833 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:59 am to
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I’m sure we’ll see a few “why was he driving with all that money” responses.


I don’t give a damn if it *IS* drug money: innocent until PROVEN guilty, because it could just as easily NOT be drug money.

If I want to carry a million in cash everywhere I go that’s my RIGHT as a free American.

Down with tyrants.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:08 am to
He was in Nevada so maybe he was going to Vegas?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:11 am to
The State is hangry, friends. Proceed accordingly.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25692 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:18 am to
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wonder if the bootlickers will stop by with their “nothing to fear if you just cooperate” bullshite this time.


As someone who I could see be considered a bootlicker in certain threads let me offer you my broad perspective to see if it sheds light.

I like the person that least damages society in almost every scenario.

I’d say 8/10 LEO interactions that’s the LEO.

I can both loathe the shoplifter screaming “I can’t brrrreeeeeeeeevveeee” and jackbooted goons who rob US citizens.

In fact, im I a pretty ardent “tax is theft” guy and have fantasies about not paying them, thumbing my nose at the government, and then building a boobytrapped compound lol.

I’m hyper aware that as these gay, authoritarian politicians try and oppress their citizens, it’s largely self-proclaimed conservative patriots, that show up with guns to actually do it. Hillary Clinton and Kamala aint walking through that door to shut down business. It’s Darryl and Hank.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20318 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:21 am to
CAF is so unconstitutional that it is hard to fathom how it is considered "legal". It should have every citizen in this country fired the frick up.

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