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ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Say what you will about my stance but it won’t be administered to me or my kids until there is proof it won’t affect us long term. Simple and easy to understand. And no you can’t change that opinion because the proof required simply does not exist yet. Nothing to do with politics other than any time the government tries to compel you to do something optional, it’s almost never for the benefit of anyone but the ones making the calls. For reference I think GW Bush should be in jail for war crimes so I may be Republican but I’m not a sycophant
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tiger91
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Honest question cause idk.

If you had covid, what is your protection without the shot?


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Don't be old


This may prove to be a challenge.


Teddy Ruxpin
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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The only thing that isn't working is the right wing pivot of support away from the vaccine effort because Trump lost the election.


An absolute shitload of Democrats haven't gotten vaccinated either. It's a tired argument.


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Bamadog75
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
How about if you want the jab take it and if not don't take it. Case closed, why would I take any experimental drug when you have a 99.7 survival rate. Some of you people blow my mind on how scared you are. If you get your jab then you shouldn't get the virus (if it works). Now if the jab doesn't work and you can still get it after vaxxing,then why would anyone take it. Its very simple you take care of you and your family and the next man will do the same. But you are not going to tell me that I have to do anything I dont want to. If you so called smart people on here telling people to trust doctors.lol look back on the last 100 years of how many times doctors said something was safe and years later people were killed or injured by drugs and or vaccines that wasn't.
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ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Yes.


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Nothing to do with politics


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For reference I think GW Bush should be in jail for war crimes




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Teddy Ruxpin
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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This may prove to be a challenge.


Quite unavoidable without pretty negative countermeasures.


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Bullfrog
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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If you had covid, what is your protection without the shot?
While not exactly what you ask, this study shows you are best protected from variants by naturally beating Covid then getting your mRNA doses.

Yale’s medical school study.
Past SARS-CoV-2 infection enhances mRNA vaccine-induced neutralization of variants of concern
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lsupride87
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Yes.
Not being a dick, but I would like to hear the thought process

Why are you not ok with the potential long term effects of a man made American vaccine, but you are ok with the long term effects of a man made China virus?


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Ingeniero
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Right on brother, I'm not putting no cuck poison in me. I don't use iPhone newer than the version 4 either. Wanna know why? The version 5 came out in 2013. Has that been 10 years? HELL NO! What kind of brain cancer causing shite do you think china is slipping in those phones?! They aren't catching me, baw.


TheFlyingTiger
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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How about if you want the jab take it and if not don't take it. Case closed, why would I take any experimental drug when you have a 99.7 survival rate. Some of you people blow my mind on how scared you are.


Who tf are you arguing with?

This is my stance. If you don't want it you shouldn't be forced to take it.

The only reason ANY of these discussions continue is because the vaccinated can't handle that some people don't want it, so there's a MASSIVE propaganda push to get everyone to take the shot.

The next step, and again, we all know it's coming, is the end of a free, normal human life without the shot.

The Evangelical shot pushers don't have a problem with it (for now) because they feel they're protected from this power grab.

You start removing liberty for some bull shite like this, an it'll forever be an issue.

So if you're tired of these threads, take your shot and quit pushing for everyone else to join you.

They see the same stories and articles and fear porn you do, and have come to a different conclusion.
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Tiguar
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
I didn’t even have to wait a week


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jchamil
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Why are you not ok with the potential long term effects of a man made American vaccine, but you are ok with the long term effects of a man made China virus?


You aren't 100% guaranteed to catch covid and be subjected to potential long term side effects, if you get the shot you are 100% guaranteed to be subjected to potential long term side effects.


ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Why are you not ok with the potential long term effects of a man made American vaccine, but you are ok with the long term effects of a man made China virus?



One I have no choice in dealing with, and with HCQ, Ivermectin, Zinc and Vitamin D supplements I feel as though the less risk is dealing with the off chance we even get it vs the unknown risks associated with the therapy they call a vaccine but doesn't work like the other vaccines that are proven safer with acceptable, known long term risks.

If the vaccine 100% prevented transmission and contraction of covid, I would be more open to considering it, as that advantage would be something worth the risk. It does not. It may help but I'm willing to sacrifice that for waiting until long term studies are available to discuss with my family's doctor.


TSmith
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Not being a dick, but I would like to hear the thought process

Why are you not ok with the potential long term effects of a man made American vaccine, but you are ok with the long term effects of a man made China virus?

Excellent question.


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lsupride87
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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You aren't 100% guaranteed to catch covid and be subjected to potential long term side effects
I guess I disagree

If you plan to live the next 5 years, I see no humanly way possible you wont be introduced to covid-19 unless you lock yourself away


Klark Kent
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
when will the obsession end?


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lsupride87
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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If the vaccine 100% prevented transmission and contraction of covid, I would be more open to considering it, as that advantage would be something worth the risk. It does not. It may help but I'm willing to sacrifice that for waiting until long term studies are available to discuss with my family's doctor.
Another honest question:

What do you consider long term? A year isnt long enough? What is your cutoff date to where you wont blame something popping up down the road on the vaccine?


ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Ingeniero


Time will tell if this post was comedy or tragedy. I'll wait to find out personally. If you feel it is right for you, I don't fault you or even think you are dumb as you see fit to mock me. There's probably some other circumstance in your life that I don't know about swaying your opinion.

All I know is I won't get it until it has been put through the same rigors of authorization as other vaccines that I elected to give my kids. Then I will have a discussion with my doctor.

If someone gets it before then there is HCQ and Ivermectin available for treatment and no one in my house has underlying conditions like having a BMI 30+. If things were not this way I may have a different stance.


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