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NIH
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Typical Republican. Looking for red tape and someone to sue. Disgusting.


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Which protocols were skipped?


All long term study. If that info is produced it means the virus is man made because they had the vaccine going already along side it. If they don't produce that info they can't prove it is safe long term.

I'll wait until the same information that I can get on the chicken pox vaccine is available and then make my choice. Until then I see no need to add risk to my or my family's lives while we have been dealing with current risk levels for 1.5 years.

Simple, easy to understand, logical stance, so I understand why it is a hated opinion.


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Typical Democrat. Looking for moral superiority so you can force ideas on others when you have no business doing so. Disgusting


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medtiger
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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So I can go from a .01% chance of dying from the vid to a .008% chance of dying and all I have to do is get injected with experimental drugs? Twice?


Why is chance of dying your determining factor in deciding whether or not to get vaccinated? Don't you value not having to miss 10 days of work or whatever else is important in your life? What about reducing the chances that if you do become exposed to this virus, that your illness will likely be less severe? I just don't understand the mindset.


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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So you are not vaccinated then ?only takes a few mins man. All you doom and gloom guys on here crack me up


I had the virus. No need.

I don't care if others want the vaccine.

I also don't believe any one that doesn't want it should be forced to get it.
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
We still need to square this with the head science guy in Britain stating that 60% of Covid hospitalizations in Britain are people who have been vaccinated.

Oh, yeah, I forgot....he came back and changed it to 40% because he "made a mistake".


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Why is chance of dying your determining factor in deciding whether or not to get vaccinated? Don't you value not having to miss 10 days of work or whatever else is important in your life? What about reducing the chances that if you do become exposed to this virus, that your illness will likely be less severe? I just don't understand the mindset.


Because I have access to proven meds that aren't experimental. HCQ works and I have seen it first hand in my family.

Plus getting the vaccine doesn't prevent me from getting or spreading so what's the fricking point? I gave my kids the chicken pox vaccine because I understood they'd never get the pox and that the shot wasn't killing kids 10 years down the road. I get neither assurance from this.


TheFlyingTiger
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Why is chance of dying your determining factor in deciding whether or not to get vaccinated? Don't you value not having to miss 10 days of work or whatever else is important in your life? What about reducing the chances that if you do become exposed to this virus, that your illness will likely be less severe? I just don't understand the mindset


Chance of dying is drastically reduced if we stop restricting outpatient treatment with known helpful medications.

The current treatment protocol is "wait to see if you're gonna die" instead of "here's steroids, an inhaler and a zpack"


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Plus getting the vaccine doesn't prevent me from getting or spreading so what's the fricking point?


Wait, what?


Teddy Ruxpin
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Lots of stories about people catching Covid after getting vaccinated

But not a lot of stories about people catching it twice

Makes you go hmmmmmm

But muh vaccine is better than natural immunity…


Hey, I'm a big believer in natural immunity. Those that have it probably shouldn't get vaccinated.

However, to get natural immunity you have to get infected. Depending on who you are, well...that may not go well.

Don't be old, fat and sick and generally will be OK. Half the country is fat though.
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ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Wait, what?


You did not understand this? Look it up. Widely available info even on CNN I bet


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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
the vaccinated are obsessed with the unvaccinated. y’all are a fricking cult


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Fun Bunch
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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We still need to square this with the head science guy in Britain stating that 60% of Covid hospitalizations in Britain are people who have been vaccinated.

Oh, yeah, I forgot....he came back and changed it to 40% because he "made a mistake".



Lol

Ok


Fun Bunch
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Plus getting the vaccine doesn't prevent me from getting or spreading so what's the fricking point?


This isn’t true. It’s not 100% effective but is effective in reducing transmission or getting it.



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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
A guy at the plant told me the vaccine makes you a transgender cuck. But it takes 10 years and 1 day to happen, which is what we missed out on catching when the DEMOCRATS rushed the studies to give us an unproven, untested, experimental gene therapy "vaccine." I won't be taking it, me. Give me IVERMECTIN.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go get lunch at Chili's.

Toodles!


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medtiger
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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HCQ works and I have seen it first hand in my family.


You saw a drug "work" 1 or 2 times anecdotally for a virus that the vast majority of people recover from in a 10 day period, and that's scientific evidence that it works? That's not how this works.


TBoy
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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Thank you, Trump!

You are very consistent.

We needed the efforts of the Trump Administration in supporting vaccine development to succeed. And by pretty much every measure the effort succeeded. Effective vaccines were developed and put into use.

The only thing that isn't working is the right wing pivot of support away from the vaccine effort because Trump lost the election.

However, and I mean this sincerely, your consistency on this issue is refreshing. You can spike the ball for the Trump Administration's vaccine effort all day. It was earned.


ShoeBang
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
You do realize that “not 100%” and “does not prevent” mean the same thing right? If so go back and read. I never said it doesn’t help. I never said the drugs are not working, but I won’t pretend like I am willing to risk the unknown long term side effects either. That’s the whole point


medtiger
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Here's a LINK from the Lancet from 2 weeks ago showing the Pfizer vaccine reduces infectivity by preventing infection and reduced viral shedding.
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lsupride87
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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
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but I won’t pretend like I am willing to risk the unknown long term side effects either. That’s the whole point


But you are cool with rolling with the effects of a china made virus they released on the world?


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