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re: NC county giving Narcan to opioid addicts - good idea?

Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:24 pm to
Narcan has an open prescription in Lousiana
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:40 pm to
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besides Narcan doesn’t help with being dope sick. Narcan counter affects opioid


This. Seen many a pissed off OD patient after getting Narcan. They are glad to be alive but irritated and usually have somewhere to be. Lol
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:42 pm to
How exactly does one use the Narcan while in an OD’s state?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:46 pm to
Someone else will have to give it to you if you're out.

And it's not a cure-all. The stuff nowadays mixed with fentanyl and cardenafil might kill you anyway. Some people have to get multiple doses of narcan to come back.

It's all well and easy to say natural selection, but most people these days aren't starting out on skid row. They are medical professionals, laywers, bankers, and everything in between. Yeah some people have done nothing and have been nothing but a burden, but then you have to look and see where they came from. Could we really expect anything else realistically?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57445 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:49 pm to
Narcan blocks all the opioid receptors. Some patients that have to use will fight first responders for killing their high
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:59 pm to
Narcan interferes with Darwin’s business.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4707 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 5:08 pm to
I've heard of other places doing this, but usually it's grassroots organizations handing out OD kits to people.

I honestly don't think that a drug addict is going to think about the possibility ODing as a factor in whether they use or not.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 5:19 pm to
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Does it deter people from getting sober if they feel they are safe from an OD?



No, they are going to use no matter what. Physically they have to. So whether or not they OD is irrelevant to them.

This sounds like a good idea for the county, they are just trying to save lives.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 5:20 pm to
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How exactly does one use the Narcan while in an OD’s state?



I’d imagine they give it to a caregiver. Family member or somebody that will check on them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259899 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 5:21 pm to
It's free here and doesn't seem to be helping.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:29 am to
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How exactly does one use the Narcan while in an OD’s state?


Better junkies probably have a "spotter" for lack of a better word. don't know how much you can trust another junkie.

Narcan can work IV (of course) it can also be administered in the leg like an epi pen. Just stab the outer thigh. If they've fully stopped breathing though, they dont have that kind of time for an IM shot to work.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:45 am to
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It's free here and doesn't seem to be helping.



It's not reviving OD's? People are still going to die, but I would think it has saved some people too. And you can save them once or twice and the die the third time but still die.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19244 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:47 am to
Yes
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259899 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:47 am to

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It's not reviving OD's? People are still going to die, but I would think it has saved some people too. And you can save them once or twice and the die the third time but still die.


Most OD's are in the presence of other users or alone. It doesn't help to have Narcan around when no one is physically able to function.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14835 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:49 am to
Great, prolong their lying, stealing, and generally ruining the lives of the people around them. Darwin is shrugging in his grave.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123920 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:52 am to
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