Navy nixes “Two Fails” rule for PT tests

I for one was thankful for the rule they had.

I went to boot in 94, and failed the Sit-up requirement for the PT test by 6 sit-ups. I could do more than the required pushups in that time allowed, and could do the mile and a 1/2 run in way under the mark. graduated boot, went to the side group to train and get the 2nd attempt and missed it by the 6. they general discharged me, and I went home.

in retrospect i'm disappointed in myself for not making it, but I went to school, got a damn good job and married. I used that failure as motivation to do as well as I could to be happy and have a family, and not an excuse to free lode.

I'm all for maintaining fitness (never failed PT) but this is a step in right direction.

It gives leadership same discretion to evaluate their personnel as they have for primary job performance. It makes no sense that an otherwise top performer in primary duties is eliminated for a secondary issue like PT. While an average performer at primary duties can coast if they're pass fitness test.

Military loves to hang decisions on objective measures in name of fairness instead of making tough subjective evaluations of critical performance areas. Thus checking the mandatory boxes is more important than honing skills. Things like PT fail or finishing an online training professional training program are go/no go for eval/promotion yet one could allow flight currency to expire or hook a checkride and there is no requirement for annual performance downgrade. Those just go towards the rater's objective assessment just as a PT test etc should. Besides, you can have individuals w injury on waivers for years meanwhile someone else is suffering through and trying to gut it out either because of pride, issue is more difficult to diagnose/prove or they dont have as sympathetic doc.

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failed the Sit-up requirement for the PT test by 6 sit-ups. I could do more than the required pushups in that time allowed, and could do the mile and a 1/2 run in way under the mark

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You were quite an anomaly. Run is usually the event that gets most people followed by push ups. The ones that cant hit those marks may also struggle w situps too. In 24 yrs I dont remember anyone w multiple fails for situps alone. Maybe it's more common w recruits than once they pass and hit units.
Hope you strengthened your core since and/or got whatever underlying issue addressed. Thanks for trying and glad you've built yourself up off the experience.

Failing a PT, means no one likes you...

you were "blue falconed" or "buddy fricked"...

We tended to pair up with friends and counting goes "1, 2, 3, 7, 11, etc.."

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Further watering down our military superiority. The PFT is a minimum for basic fitness levels in the military. If an 18 year old kid cant do 30-40 situps or pushups maybe the military isn't for them

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we're launching missiles and torpedoes from days away, wtf does it matter if i can do 60 pushups

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we're launching missiles and torpedoes from days away, wtf does it matter if i can do 60 pushups

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When you are in your rack and GQ sounds and you can’t get to your station timely it matters.

Or if you are needed to man a hose for firefighting and can’t hold it up or move it. Ot open/close a hatch to prevent fire or fight it.

People forget, onboard you have many other duties than your primary and every life depends on everyones ability to do all tasks.

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When you are in your rack and GQ sounds and you can’t get to your station timely it matters.

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i never needed to stop and do a pushup going from Combat Systems berthing to my GQ Station, but i'm not sure if anyone else did

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if you are needed to man a hose for firefighting and can’t hold it up or move it. Ot open/close a hatch to prevent fire or fight it.

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I really never needed to do a situp in order to set conditions Y/Z, but again, maybe your Ship was different..We also had onboard Damage-controlmen who were essentially firefighters...Maybe yours didnt have them

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onboard you have many other duties than your primary and every life depends on everyones ability to do all tasks.

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You're right...I had to eat/sleep/go on watch for months at a time.Looking back now, i'm guessing that maybe I could have simply been doing pushups and situps that whole time

Put these dudes in a bath house and there’s your navy.

You only needed a 10 on the ASVAB to enlist until recently…now it’s a 16….six…teen.