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Posted on 4/24/15 at 6:06 am to Dijkstra
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This is one of the most ignorant, absurd statements I've ever read
My point was missed because of the "cancer" inclusion. I was trying to say (and undoubtedly rather poorly)that there are hundreds of real world, this planet, human life affecting, issues that need attention now. The time money and intellect that is wasted on NASA searching for a way to stay relevant is troubling.
My apologies for having offended the NASA, astro-physics, we are not alone crew out there. I'm just of the ilk we should take care of our own and our issues before searching for other worlds and life forms.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 6:15 am to Tiger inTampa
Because NASA's budget is so big
Posted on 4/24/15 at 6:29 am to Tiger inTampa
When I started at NASA, 2002, we were still in the Clinton project called the Earth Science Application. There were 12 national applications that we're going to use existing satellites, and more specialized follow ons, to investigate. Agricultural competitiveness, forrest fire alert, coastal restoration...real deal earth science. These satellites fly by once or twice a day broadcasting this data back, all you have to do is figure out how to ingest and analyze it. Huge amounts of data, and creating tools to utilize it is nontrivial. Perfect use for the Internet as well, have people all over writing to code to eat the elephant one piece at a time.
Then Columbia crashed and Bush ash-canned it to divert all the funds to flying out the shuttle fleet. Our ground-truth sensor team was splintered and I got transferred to Michoud to build external tanks. That sucked. Oh well. Launching rockets to the space station now, or at least trying to. Better, but not anywhere close to when I started. That program was awesome.
Then Columbia crashed and Bush ash-canned it to divert all the funds to flying out the shuttle fleet. Our ground-truth sensor team was splintered and I got transferred to Michoud to build external tanks. That sucked. Oh well. Launching rockets to the space station now, or at least trying to. Better, but not anywhere close to when I started. That program was awesome.
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 6:31 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:23 am to Tiger inTampa
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I'm just of the ilk we should take care of our own and our issues before searching for other worlds and life forms.
You know? You're actually right. That's exactly what Marco Polo, Chris Columbus, Amerigo Vespucci, Ferdinand Magellan et.al. should have done. They should have stayed home and worked on a cure for syphilis or plague or some other shite instead of discovering the World and places in the World that held plants that held cures for countless diseases....
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:25 am to Gaston
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at NASA
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Launching rockets to the space station now, or at least trying to.
Not really though, isn't Elon Musk handling that for ya'll instead?
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 7:26 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:25 am to fantastickmath
The longer it takes to find life in the universe the more I am right. 
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:39 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Not really though, isn't Elon Musk handling that for ya'll instead?
yea, but unless I am mistaken, ULA does more lifts for NASA than SpaceX still.
In any case, you are right. NASA itself ain't lifting shite these days, and it's sad. I am a firm believer that we should be exploring our solar system just as Columbus explored Earth.
I don't get caught up in the whole "We were born here, but not meant to die here" conversation about finding a new home before the Earth dies, but I think humanity needs to explore. It's in our nature as a species, and I don't think anything brings a people together better than the quest for the undiscovered. Call it manifest destiny of an existential level.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:39 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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You know..... World that held plants that held cures for countless diseases....
No I get the whole future horizons unknown worlds etc. Simply think there are more immediate issues that would benefit from more attention.
However myopic and in your opinion misguided it may be it is simply an opinion shared by one bored guy on a seemingly never ending conference call. My apologies to all the celestial sojourners. I have just never had the extra-planetary wanderlust of some and believe more earth bound pursuits to be more practical.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:56 am to Tiger inTampa
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My apologies to all the celestial sojourners. I have just never had the extra-planetary wanderlust of some and believe more earth bound pursuits to be more practical.
Yet by your words you still continue to be an idiot. Do you have any idea how many technologies we have on Earth that exist because of NASA research? NASA's accomplishments have translated into real world practical applications here on Earth countless times.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:56 am to fantastickmath
The funniest part of me sometimes is when I think that since the only example of life we have is here on earth, we could literally be on another planet looking at a form of life and not even realize it at first. 
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:07 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Not really though, isn't Elon Musk handling that for ya'll instead?
SpaceX and Orbital both have contracts to supply the space station. Elon uses NASA developed engines, pintle type used on the Apollo lunar module, while Orbital was using the old Russian space shuttle, yea they built one just like ours, AJ26 engines. Orbital's Antares rocket exploded last October, LINK so they are rebuilding the launch pad at Wallops. They're using different engines for the next launch so there are some changes that go along with the rebuilding.
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:10 am to efrad
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you still continue to be an idiot
Subjective and completely uncalled for. take a breath and relax. Simply an opinion from a guy on a message board....
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:27 am to Tiger inTampa
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Simply think there are more immediate issues that would benefit from more attention.
You're right. First, we'll find a solution for:
- Disease
- Famine
- War
- Religious persecution
- Sex trafficking
- Mental disorder
- Drug/alcohol addiction
- Destitution
- Totalitarian regimes
- Drug trading
- Natural disaster
- Slavery
THEN we can explore the universe.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:37 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
quote:They spread diseases that killed far more people than they cured with plants they found.
They should have stayed home and worked on a cure for syphilis or plague or some other shite instead of discovering the World and places in the World that held plants that held cures for countless diseases....
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:43 am to TigerPanzer
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shite, I should introduce them to my wife.
your wife is an alien/ Sucks for you, didn't turn out to well in 'Species'.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:46 am to Tiger inTampa
How much money is "wasted" on NASA, vs money "wasted" on Iraq and Corporate bail outs?
NASA at least is responsible for many tech advancements and that trend should continue.
NASA at least is responsible for many tech advancements and that trend should continue.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:30 am to Darth_Vader
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It might not be the best idea to go broadcasting to the whole universe "here we are!".
This. I recall Stephen Hawking saying something to the effect that, if intelligent alien life does exist, it probably wouldn't be a good situation for us if they chose to pay us a visit. He said that they'd likely only make the trip for one of two reasons....colonization or to rob us of natural resources. He compared it to what happened to the native Americans when the white man showed up.
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