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re: My 2 Cents on the Walker HS administration situation
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:15 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:15 am to LSUfan4444
two quotations come to mind about St. Pierre:
"Stupid is as stupid does", F. Gump
"Ain't 'dat a shame", F. Antoine Domino
Right now all I see is a bunch of deck chairs being rearranged on the Titanic.
All the OP has done this morning is stir the gumbo pot again!
"Stupid is as stupid does", F. Gump
"Ain't 'dat a shame", F. Antoine Domino
Right now all I see is a bunch of deck chairs being rearranged on the Titanic.
All the OP has done this morning is stir the gumbo pot again!
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 8:23 am
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:32 am to supadave3
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While I don't agree with what he did, it's discouraging to see his entire career overlooked by this one incident. I'm not familiar with the situation at Walker High enough to know if there have been other issues in them past, but it's not like he suggested sexual things to this girl. The moms desire for attention and drama played a small role in this also.
Mom went to the mattresses because this guy wanted to be a petty tyrant. Now she will win enough in a lawsuit to make that scholarship look like chump change. Great mom.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:36 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Is Becnel going to face any repercussions? I have a feeling she's the mastermind behind all of this.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:37 am to Triple13
Nothing has been said yet.
With the principal heading for a leave of absence to let things cool down, she may try the same given the student walkouts over this clusterfrick.
With the principal heading for a leave of absence to let things cool down, she may try the same given the student walkouts over this clusterfrick.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:39 am to LSUJML
quote:People keep falling for his shtick
You’re a terrible troll 1/10
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:40 am to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:ridiculous. A high school has zero business having these.
HE is the one that brought in the Papa John’s, the Nike store, the cookie shop, the PJ’s Coffee, and the neighbors credit union, for the students to enjoy and have access to during school hours
Especially Nike why the heck does a high school need a Nike
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:41 am to Pelican fan99
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ridiculous. A high school has zero business having these
They're actually ran by students
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:47 am to deathvalleyfreak43
In the list of everything he has accomplished and the things he brought to WHS, I did not see where you also include a high dollar lawsuit for his actions trying to destroy this young girl's future. If he wants to live off of his merits and also have his new found religious beliefs, he needs to bring his resume to catholic schools. Of course, some of his prior actions may disqualify him.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:48 am to supadave3
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While I don't agree with what he did, it's discouraging to see his entire career overlooked by this one incident.
As others have mentioned, he actually did do alot of innovative things and was overall pretty well respected. That being said, the behavior here is logic defying for an almost 20 year principal and almost implies there's something missing from the story. Almost anyone looking at this from the outside instantly sees how bad of a decision this was. Was it just an unexplainable case of poor judgement that simply snowballed out of control? Did he somehow allow the academic coach with the rival daughter to talk him into this? Or, and maybe most concerning, was he just so comfortable treating kids like this without backlash over the years that he never envisioned a scenario where this would come back to bite him?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:48 am to lsusteve1
I don't get the Nike store. How much product are they pushing during school day and is that in kids' best interests? Why wouldnt kids just work retail jobs after school? Might he a great program I'm genuinely curious.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:52 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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HE is the one that brought in the Papa John’s, the Nike store, the cookie shop, the PJ’s Coffee, and the neighbors credit union, for the students to enjoy and have access to during school hours.
Consume, consume, consume! What else are your lives for, young people, except to consume?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:56 am to jdd48
Bureaucrats and administrators that blatantly abuse the power of their appointed office must be held accountable. This fool used the power of the state to unjustly punish free citizens (well beyond his span of authority) and children at that. Criminal charges shouldn't be out of the question.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:01 am to jdd48
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Or, and maybe most concerning, was he just so comfortable treating kids like this without backlash over the years that he never envisioned a scenario where this would come back to bite him?
I realize that in this context, at a public school, the whole incident adds up to mistreatment of the student, but in a broad sense, are we really at a point where it’s always impermissible for a young person to be mentored and lectured to by anyone who isn’t their parent?
Obviously taking her out of contention for a scholarship was not his place if he wasn’t awarding the scholarship, but people seem to think it abhorrent that he spoke to her at all about her behavior and morals. Is that just because of the context of a public school or would that reaction happen the same if this was a private school setting?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:12 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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don't get the Nike store. How much product are they pushing during school day and is that in kids' best interests? Why wouldnt kids just work retail jobs after school? Might he a great program I'm genuinely curious.
No idea
But Walker doesn't really have a lot of those types of jobs, in town.
It's more about teaching the business side.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:16 am to Earnest_P
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Obviously taking her out of contention for a scholarship was not his place if he wasn’t awarding the scholarship, but people seem to think it abhorrent that he spoke to her at all about her behavior and morals. Is that just because of the context of a public school or would that reaction happen the same if this was a private school setting?
It's HOW he did it. Why wasn't the mother brought in? Why wasn't the focus on what social media could do to you? What was Becnel doing there? Why did he have to throw Bible verses at her?
And as far as his innovative programs, how about some training in hard skills? Training in carpentry, welding, electrical work, HVAC? Seems what he brought in is a bunch of stuff where he could line his pockets?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:16 am to Earnest_P
“but people seem to think it abhorrent that he spoke to her at all about her behavior and morals.”
In this setting, yes.
In this setting, yes.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:20 am to jdd48
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there's something missing from the story.
It has been added. His marriage vows mean Jack Squat to him. I guess my question now is How attractive is this Becnel person?
Would she Mrs. Gump a principal to get her daughter a fat scholly?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:22 am to supadave3
quote:
While I don't agree with what he did, it's discouraging to see his entire career overlooked by this one incident. I'm not familiar with the situation at Walker High enough to know if there have been other issues in them past, but it's not like he suggested sexual things to this girl. The moms desire for attention and drama played a small role in this also.
Without the sexual overtones of “twerking” this never even becomes a story. The internet ran with it because they saw “twerking video” in the headline and it was a blonde girl.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:25 am to Earnest_P
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I realize that in this context, at a public school, the whole incident adds up to mistreatment of the student, but in a broad sense, are we really at a point where it’s always impermissible for a young person to be mentored and lectured to by anyone who isn’t their parent?
Obviously taking her out of contention for a scholarship was not his place if he wasn’t awarding the scholarship, but people seem to think it abhorrent that he spoke to her at all about her behavior and morals. Is that just because of the context of a public school or would that reaction happen the same if this was a private school setting?
Assuming for a second this was 100% unplanned by Becnel and St. Pierre and simply spiraled out of control, there's at least 2 things that should have been considered IMO. First is the optics of including Becnel in the discussion in the first place when her daughter is an academic rival and allegedly in line to get those scholarships. The other is if he really felt this strongly about it, why not start with a conversation with her mother first before calling her in about it, or make sure her mother was present in the room when the conversation took place?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:25 am to Earnest_P
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Is that just because of the context of a public school or would that reaction happen the same if this was a private school setting?
The public school context is a major part of the backlash. But you also have to factor in how far he was going for her actions at an event that was not a school function. He was threatening her collegiate aspirations because "he decided" she was not being a good Christian.
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are we really at a point where it’s always impermissible for a young person to be mentored and lectured to by anyone who isn’t their parent?
I think we have always been at the point where it isn't proper for any adult to mentor and lecture a child over the actual parent (outside of extreme circumstances). The girl's mother was at the event, she witnessed the way the girl was dancing and had absolutely no problem with her actions.
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