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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:17 pm to
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While locked up, you would think Murdaugh possessed enough common sense to understand that all jailhouse calls are recorded, as a former attorney.

It was only after a shite ton of his jailhouse calls got released that he realized he needed to run all calls through his attorney and claim privilege.

The content of the calls showed he didn’t really remember much from law school either, he had no idea what Habeas Corpus was during his preliminary hearings.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146563 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:38 pm to
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The now-dead son was not of age to drink but had been drinking, had friends on a boat, hit a cement (?) bridge and one of the very photogenic girls was thrown out, died either from blunt force trauma or drowning and her body was found a week later. Son was accused, Mother and alive brother were also accused of helping now-dead son buy booze. That's one death.

The family housekeeper fell down the stairs and died. Dad did some wierd stuff to get his insurance to pay out to her sons, but somehow the sons never got the money. That's a second body that could have been an accident but was bad juju on the part of the Father.

Third was a young man who might have been more than an acquaintance of the now-dead son, who died as a victim of a hit and run. That's a third dead person with no charges places and a tenuous connection to the family.

The fourth dead body said to be from natural causes was the Father's Father, dead-son's grandfather, who was said to have provided the Father with an alibi of a hospital visit the night of the murders. His death was three days after the two family murders.

This is the way I remember it; I hope I'm more accurate that Prince Harry, but corrections are welcomed.
@ the Prince Harry comment.

Good summary.

What about the part that he paid a guy to shoot him/rob him on the side of the road? It wasn't suicide by paying this guy I don't think. The man is really sick.

Correct me if I am off: but weren't the deaths of the wife and son initially maybe framed to be because a whole lot of people were pissed at the boy for drunk boating killing the girl?

Which son was the son that maybe had gay sex with the kid that was hit and killed on the side of the road? The dead or alive son?

Also: Where is the alive son? Is he supporting his father? Did the father try to get shot so the son got insurance money? (Suicides don't pay insurance)
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
4987 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:09 am to
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It was the other son that was supposed to have known/killed him. Buster's his name, I think.


Speculation is he was about to come out as having a relationship with Buster.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
4987 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:18 am to
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The content of the calls showed he didn’t really remember much from law school either, he had no idea what Habeas Corpus was during his preliminary hearings.


By all accounts he wasn't much of a lawyer, lived off his family legacy. That part of the state they ran it for generations. He inherited it because of his name but certainly dint earn anything. blame. Grandfathers picture was still hanging in the courtroom where his preliminary stuff was happening.. His son Buster was/is a law school drop out. The son that was killed was a 5 foot 5 inch bully that got away with everything growing up because of grandpa. The HBO documentary was sad, the boyfriend of the girl that died on the boat was pathetic. After all that happened he was still sympathetic toward Paul.

IMO there are many other dead bodies attributed to them because people still fear the name.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14160 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:25 am to
I think it’s BS that the court didn’t allow the convenience store to sever itself from this for a separate trial. The kid presented a fake (his brothers?)ID to the store clerk. SLED didn’t file charges. Why the hell should they get attached to this shitshow?

The judge reversed his earlier ruling to separate the two trials. Sounds like somebody made a phone call.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
4987 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:30 am to
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Correct me if I am off: but weren't the deaths of the wife and son initially maybe framed to be because a whole lot of people were pissed at the boy for drunk boating killing the girl?


Yes at first, then it was a gang due to Alex owing them money for his drug habit. To be a lawyer he has some lame excuses.
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Which son was the son that maybe had gay sex with the kid that was hit and killed on the side of the road? The dead or alive son?


Yes the Smith kid and Buster the olderest son were rumored to have had a relationship and the family found out and it was going to be exposed. The alive son live in Hilton head and seems to be trying to lay low but also semi supportive if his dad. It will be interesting to see if he is at trial.

Many local legal experts seem to think he will get away with the murders but will go down for the finance stuff, it is overwhelming. His legal team is the best in the state and the prosecutor is doing his first murder trial.

They straight up stole from clients that they represented, some clients ended up with nothing or pennies on the dollar of wht they were owed. They set up conservativorships that once paid just milked the money out of accounts. It is amazing how long this has been happening.


Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
481 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:44 am to
I pay for FitsNews specifically so I can follow this case. If there’s anything worth sharing I’ll post it here.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:45 am to
I think Mandy Matney did it all for attention.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:47 am to
Where did these asshats get their $? I know inherited but what did it originally come from?
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11533 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:23 am to
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Many local legal experts seem to think he will get away with the murders but will go down for the finance stuff, it is overwhelming. His legal team is the best in the state and the prosecutor is doing his first murder trial.


I’m curious to see all the evidence. Supposedly the State has some interesting evidence linking him to the murders but not much has been put out about it. Rumor is that there may be some evidence involving Paul’s cell phone right before he was murdered.

I think there is no doubt Murdaugh was involved in the murders but I’m not completely sure he was the one that actually shot one or both of them. How shady he was, I kinda believe he hired somebody to carry out the murders. I think with the timeframe, he wouldn’t had time to get rid of the weapons in time. Also, there has been no report or evidence describing where or what happen to the murderer(s) after the shooting. A random person wouldn’t knew the layout and how to get in/out the property. It had to be planned.

I think that night, Maggie was the main target. She knew that Alex was about to get busted for his shady shite. He was trying to cover it up but knew Maggie was not going to go along with it. I think Paul was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Before Alex supposedly left that night to go to his parents house, Maggie was the only one going down to the kennels. Some believe Maggie was going to tell Paul what was going on and that maybe was the reason he went down there. Others believe Paul showed up at the wrong time and saw/heard things and was killed to prevent having a witness.

Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18895 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:40 am to
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But Bevel concluded that the T-shirt is 'stained with high-velocity blood spatter resulting from shooting Maggie and Paul' after his initial report found the stains were 'consistent with transfers and not back spatter from a bullet wound.' Murdaugh's attorneys accused SLED of 'badgering' Bevel into changing his report. The T-shirt was later destroyed 'for purposes of forensics testing by the unnecessary application of an oxidizing chemical stain,' the court filing states. Bevel's initial report only came to light when prosecutors with the South Carolina Attorney General's Office accidentally turned over a copy to Murdaugh's defense team, according to the motion. The white T-shirt is a critical piece of evidence for state prosecutors, who have suggested in court papers that the family patriarch shot his wife and son after fearing his decades-long corruption schemes would be exposed.


This dude will walk if shite like this is already going on.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12169 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:42 am to
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think Paul was a victim of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Before Alex supposedly left


I disagree because Alex demanded that Paul come out to Moselle that night. Paul was living with his Uncle Randy at the time and didn't want to go meet his dad. Uncle Randy had to talk Paul into going. Both were targets

quote:

On the day of her murder, she knew Paul — who worked that day at his uncle’s equipment rental shop and ate dinner with his uncle’s family at their home in Okatie — would be at Moselle that evening.
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Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12169 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:49 am to
Paul didn't trust his dad and he was taking a picture of a friend's dog that he was keeping at Moselle. He kept the video and audio going on his phone and supposedly the time stamp will show Alex's alibi is a lie.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:56 am to
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Where did these asshats get their $?

Generational prosecutors who turned their power into a successful law firm. The Murdaugh firm made hundreds of millions of dollars suing railroads in personal injury cases. They were the reason the South Carolina General Assembly changed our venue statute for civil suits. It used to be an injured party could sue in any county where the corporation did business. So if you had a railroad injury case 100 miles from Hampton you could still sue them there and get a huge settlement, because the Murdaughs knew all the potential jurors if it went to trial.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8597 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:30 am to
I think I got interested in this convoluted case because I felt so very, very sorry for the wife and mother.

As I see it, she thought, for quite a while, that her life was going well. Her husband may have been an a-hole to live with, but they liked their life together.

Then, one day she was at a charity lunch and wrote a check. Just as she had countless times before. And a day or two later, a friend had the horrid task of calling her and telling her that the check bounced.
I don't know how much the check was for, but if the check couldn't be covered in a normal working checking account, AND if whoever was their bank officer didn't step in and work out the problem, there was something really wrong.

I expect he talked his way out of it. As I understood, it happened a second time. And 'fool me once, shame on you, foot me twice, shame on me." And she started looking and saw her world crumbling.

That misery, and then to be shot dead.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:32 am to
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Where did these asshats get their $? I know inherited but what did it originally come from?



I believe their grandpappy was a scalawag who won a $90 contract to grow sorghum for the Spanish-American war.

Either that or payday loan places.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19245 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:35 am to
One drunken night by his idiot son led to all this.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11533 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:46 am to
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I disagree because Alex demanded that Paul come out to Moselle that night. Paul was living with his Uncle Randy at the time and didn't want to go meet his dad. Uncle Randy had to talk Paul into going. Both were targets


I must have overlooked that part. I know he really wanted Maggie to come out there that night. IIRC, she sent a text to someone saying that Alex was acting funny or up to something.

Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11533 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:51 am to
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Paul didn't trust his dad and he was taking a picture of a friend's dog that he was keeping at Moselle. He kept the video and audio going on his phone and supposedly the time stamp will show Alex's alibi is a lie.


Apparently there is a Snapchat video taken prior to Paul’s death.

quote:

Alex Murdaugh's youngest son Paul sent his friends a Snapchat video shortly before his murder — and it is a key piece of evidence in the state's case against him, South Carolina prosecutors revealed Wednesday in a new court filing.


quote:

Amongst other things, critical to the case is a video sent out to several friends at approximately 7:56 p.m. on the night of the murders," wrote Senior Assistant Deputy Attorney General Creighton Waters in a petition to secure the attendance of a Snapchat witness. "The contents of this video is important to proving the State's case in chief."


Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
102974 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:55 am to
The son that was killed was a massive douche bag and the world is better off without him.
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