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Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:23 am to TigerGman
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Do the yellow lights flash or are they solid?
Solid. This is a double turn. You will never see flashing yellow at a double turn.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:24 am to Hodag
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Not sure why you are so defensive of the kid. Ten months ago his mom rear ended a Bronco on I-10 doing 100 and turned herself into road kill. Now the son does the same. What a fricking shite head. Hope they had to scrape him up with a shop vac. Trashy family gonna trash. I'd bet $100 the dipshit brother is dead within a year too.
Jesus Christ, you are touched in the head if you think family pedigree or whatever matters at all when assigning blame in an incident like this.. it’s a sad coincidence to be sure, but has absolutely nothing to do with this case .
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:24 am to Fe_Mike
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The speed of the motorcycle absolutely caused the accident. This whole argument is imbecilic. If that dude was going even just 2x the speed limit both drivers would have had more time to react and make decision. Driving that fast on a motorcycle at night is the equivalent of driving with your lights off. Nobody can see you or process what you are doing. If I'm driving my vehicle at the proper speed (in place of the motorcycle) and this exact scenario happens, I'm lightly hitting the brakes, honking my horn, maybe even flipping her off as I'm passing. What I'm not doing is bursting into a ball of flames because my dumbass was going 100+ mph in a vehicle that can't stop. Even on a motorcycle, if he's going the speed limit, absolute worst case he's laying it down and nursing some rashes and a scratched up bike. But in reality, if he's going the speed limit, he's nowhere near that intersection by the time the light runner clears it.
I dont agree with the posters who think the motorcyclist bears no blame, but i also disagree with you that it’s 100% on the motorcyclist.. first clue is in ur last sentence- the ‘light runner’.. no matter how fast the moto guy was going, she (the car driver) did run the light and break the law too- im not nearly smart enough to say which one is *more* at fault or exactly what percentage too assign- but im guessing a jury might .
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:32 am to Fe_Mike
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The speed of the motorcycle absolutely caused the accident. This whole argument is imbecilic.
I tend to agree. She did turn left at a red light, which was illegal. But that intersection only has protected left turns because there are two turning lanes. Because of the motorcycle’s speed, the same accident would have occurred had she attempted a legal unprotected left turn.
Unfortunately, it’s also true that impatience cost her. If she sits tight at the red light, she’s fine. If she sees the headlight of the motorcycle approaching and waits just another few seconds for it to pass (she seemed hesitant), she’s fine. Drivers that young still lack adequate experience and overestimate their abilities. Sad, sad deal.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:48 am to cgrand
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but you can’t turn on a red arrow regardless
NOT SUPPOSED. People “can” do what they want. There are usually consequences.
If I was her parent and if it was shown that she turned on red, I don’t know if I’d ever ever get over it or make peace with it.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:52 am to BK Lounge
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but has absolutely nothing to do with this case .
Nah, it most likely does.
He was driving like a maniac, probably learned that from parents.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:04 am to tiger91
There are iffy neighborhoods, times of day and night, situations of cars near you where you don't feel safe waiting for a slow light to change.
The young woman murdered (is it now ) two years ago would have been better off to have run away from a lethal situation.
The young woman murdered (is it now ) two years ago would have been better off to have run away from a lethal situation.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:20 am to DrrTiger
Sometimes, in my case, the depth perception fools you when there is only one light - as in the case of a motorcycle or car with only one headlight.
I think that is what happened here with her stopping some then continuing.
Such a shame. I can't believe that the motorcycle driver would even get on another cycle after his mom was killed less than a year ago on a motorcycle.
If I would get on a motorcycle again, I would be going half the speed limit.
I think that is what happened here with her stopping some then continuing.
Such a shame. I can't believe that the motorcycle driver would even get on another cycle after his mom was killed less than a year ago on a motorcycle.
If I would get on a motorcycle again, I would be going half the speed limit.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:47 am to OysterPoBoy
BAC of parties involved?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 12:28 pm to tylercsbn9
God damn... he hit that car like a missile.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 12:47 pm to msutiger
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Turning in front of him"
He was going 75 mph over the speed limit.
Jesus he was a fricking missile. No reason to travel that fast in an urban environment. I love driving fast and I understand the risks involved. I legally hit speeds in excess of 100 mph pretty much everyday on my commute to work. There is no way I would do that if there was a risk of someone turning in front of me.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 12:58 pm to danilo
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BAC of parties involved?
Typically won't be in for months.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:00 pm to redstick13
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He was going 75 mph over the speed limit.
No one knows how fast he was going. It's all OT speculation. Based on the dash cam video, he is not going near as fast as people claim. Typical OT though, trashy motorcycle guy is at fault no matter what happened since the other victim is a beautiful young lady. Simple fact is she ran the light. If he's going the speed limit, maybe she lives, maybe not. He dies either way due to her mistake.
Happened to a friend in Denham years ago. He was doing the speed limit and a lady turned left in front of him on Range. He died instantly. If you ask the OT, he was at fault.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:09 pm to LSUengr
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Based on the dash cam video, he is not going near as fast as people claim.
Oh yes he was. He nearly flipped her car.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 3:02 pm to LSUengr
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Based on the dash cam video, he is not going near as fast as people claim
I bet you’re wrong and the crash report will say as much.
A 500 pound motorcycle isn’t going to cause a 3500 pound car to tilt upward 70 degrees without massive forces applied.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 3:07 pm to LSUengr
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No one knows how fast he was going. It's all OT speculation. Based on the dash cam video, he is not going near as fast as people claim
I saw someone earlier post the same info, but a friend spoke to a cop on the scene and they believe he was going over 130 which is absolutely crazy.
I don’t know how they even determine that. And personally I don’t believe he was going that fast. But to make that kinda impact, he was definitely going fast and at least 75 if I had to guess.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:20 am to Meauxjeaux
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How about someone just drive out there tonight at 9 PM and see what the cycle does?
I cant tell you what it does.
Those two Left Turn Arrows go from
Green, Yellow, Red. They don't blink EVER.
Another poster mentioned he drives this twice a day and also confirmed this.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:58 pm to Townedrunkard
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he was definitely going fast and at least 75 if I had to guess
What is the maximum speed a motorcycle can t-bone a car and have everybody survive?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 2:29 pm to jafari rastaman
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What is the maximum speed a motorcycle can t-bone a car and have everybody survive?
I saw a motor cycle T-Bone a car on South Sherwood Forest at 45ish. He flew in the air and landed on his back in the median. He said he was okay when we ran up to him.
There was another one I saw where a guy was going 60-70 on Stumberg because he just passed us and hit a car and died. The person in the car survived.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 5:43 pm
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