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re: Mother arrested after daughter, 19, with autism found ‘mummified’ on bedroom floor
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:56 pm to Rick9Plus
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:56 pm to Rick9Plus
quote:Police are called. They come in restrained.
What if they can’t even get the person into the car?
quote:There really are no great options out there, especially if you aren’t wealthy.
“Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.
We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:13 pm to Eurocat
I could have done without reading this. a-hole.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:21 pm to Rick9Plus
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But, like, what can they do before this happens? What if they can’t even get the person into the car? “Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.
This is, in fact, a huge problem. The libs wanted to get rid of mental institutions as being inhumane and so we did. Don’t get me wrong, some of those places were awful. But there’s a happy medium. Now, we have parents and other adults trying to take care of mentally impaired relatives without the means or ability because there’s just no other real alternative.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm to Scruffy
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We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.
I’ve done zero scientific analysis on this but the rise in autism has coincided quite neatly with humans use of computers. I think there has to be some correlation there. How much time we spend using computers is changing our brains.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:28 pm to Scruffy
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quote:
What if they can’t even get the person into the car?
Police are called. They come in restrained.
quote:
“Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.
There really are no great options out there, especially if you aren’t wealthy.
We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.
We have a non verbal autistic child. Right now he is mostly manageable, however, if he were the size of my oldest son there is no way we could manage him safely. As of now we don't do vacations, we don't do much away from home, there is NOBODY that will watch him. He has been kicked out of programs designed for autistic and disabled children because he is too much for them to watch... well WTF, you think we have some special training or super powers?
No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:53 pm to armsdealer
quote:I feel for you, I really do.
No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.
There are no good options available, especially as they grow older and become adults in size.
I have seen mothers with bruises and broken bones. How is a mother supposed to stop an aggressive 18 year old who cannot be reasoned with?
It isn’t possible.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:58 pm to Eurocat
damn, they just arrested her daddy the other day too.


Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:01 pm to armsdealer
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We have a non verbal autistic child. Right now he is mostly manageable, however, if he were the size of my oldest son there is no way we could manage him safely. As of now we don't do vacations, we don't do much away from home, there is NOBODY that will watch him. He has been kicked out of programs designed for autistic and disabled children because he is too much for them to watch... well WTF, you think we have some special training or super powers?
No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.
You're not alone. Same boat. And even if you could handle him you're not going to outlive him. Then what? Again, you're not alone.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:15 pm to Clyde Tipton
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Really? Mummified?
It was the word the sheriff used to describe her corpse due to her being severely malnourished, skin to bone, rotting in places, etc. If you picture a mummified body, I guess that's what popped into his head when he saw the dead girl.
Really sad story. Some folks aren't cut out to be parents to special needs kids. While institutionalizing these kids is distasteful, at best, I do feel the option should be there. It would help prevent things like this from happening.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:17 pm to Eurocat
How do you become mummified in 24 hours?
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:18 pm to Pax Regis
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This is, in fact, a huge problem. The libs wanted to get rid of mental institutions as being inhumane and so we did. Don’t get me wrong, some of those places were awful. But there’s a happy medium. Now, we have parents and other adults trying to take care of mentally impaired relatives without the means or ability because there’s just no other real alternative.
"Libs" did not want to get rid of mental institutions. They wanted mental institutes to be accountable for their abuse of the mentally ill and wanted the mentally ill to be treated humanely. This was, in the 1950s - 1970s, very mainstream thinking. It is a revisionist's history to suggest "libs" wanted them closed. It is not revisionist to state unequivocally that conservatives picked up the mainstream idea that something needed to be done about the abuses prevalent in mental institutes and their solution was to cut funding which did indeed wind up closing most mental institutes for the poor in the US. Ronald Reagan was largely responsible although access had been declining since the 1950s because mainstream Americans did not think it very becoming to have the mentally ill abused and mis treated the way they were. Americans wanted humane treatment for their fellow citizens, conservatives saw a chance to cut some funding. It really is that simple.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:27 pm to Eurocat
Stick a funnel her her mouth, pour concrete mix down her gullet and super glue her mouth shut.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 4:25 pm to CWS91
Horror story. That poor poor kid. It cuts deep when a kid is robbed of their potential from the start. Limited from living a full life. Like part of their soul is taken from them.
I have a daughter who is autistic. She is verbal and non-violent, but still hard to handle sometimes. I shudder at the thought of her in group home. She would be easy prey for abuse.
It sucks more than anything I have ever experienced. A full mindfrick. Only parents who are on the front lines living it can ever know the depths. Even with that, everyone's kid, kid's spectrum, and situation is different. Plenty I know personally have it way worse than us.
All you can do is try your best, keep fighting, and try to make the best decisions you can at the time a decision is needed.
The thing I struggle with the most is what constitutes a "meaningful life" for her? Tough tough stuff.
Positive wishes & strength to all of you out there in the trenches.
I have a daughter who is autistic. She is verbal and non-violent, but still hard to handle sometimes. I shudder at the thought of her in group home. She would be easy prey for abuse.
It sucks more than anything I have ever experienced. A full mindfrick. Only parents who are on the front lines living it can ever know the depths. Even with that, everyone's kid, kid's spectrum, and situation is different. Plenty I know personally have it way worse than us.
All you can do is try your best, keep fighting, and try to make the best decisions you can at the time a decision is needed.
The thing I struggle with the most is what constitutes a "meaningful life" for her? Tough tough stuff.
Positive wishes & strength to all of you out there in the trenches.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:15 pm to Eurocat
quote:
mummified
I don’t think the person who wrote this story knows what that word means
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:18 pm to Pax Regis
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I’ve done zero scientific analysis on this but the rise in autism has coincided quite neatly with humans use of computers. I think there has to be some correlation there. How much time we spend using computers is changing our brains.
Had to scroll up to see if this were an el gaucho post.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:40 pm to shutterspeed
quote:It is as good a theory as any.
Had to scroll up to see if this were an el gaucho post.
Children, especially infants, are watching increasingly more television and using more tech than previous generations.
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