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re: Mother arrested after daughter, 19, with autism found ‘mummified’ on bedroom floor

Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:56 pm to
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What if they can’t even get the person into the car?
Police are called. They come in restrained.
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“Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.
There really are no great options out there, especially if you aren’t wealthy.

We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
:IsItThemYogiItsAlwaysThem:
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:13 pm to
I could have done without reading this. a-hole.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14940 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:21 pm to
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But, like, what can they do before this happens? What if they can’t even get the person into the car? “Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.


This is, in fact, a huge problem. The libs wanted to get rid of mental institutions as being inhumane and so we did. Don’t get me wrong, some of those places were awful. But there’s a happy medium. Now, we have parents and other adults trying to take care of mentally impaired relatives without the means or ability because there’s just no other real alternative.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14940 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
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We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.


I’ve done zero scientific analysis on this but the rise in autism has coincided quite neatly with humans use of computers. I think there has to be some correlation there. How much time we spend using computers is changing our brains.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12280 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:28 pm to
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What if they can’t even get the person into the car?
Police are called. They come in restrained.
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“Institutions” got a bad name but it seems like things have gone to the other extreme. I’ve seen people in local Facebook groups post about people with mental illness who they can’t manage and they don’t know what to do. And if people do “institutionalize” their kid/sibling/parent there is a huge stigma.
There really are no great options out there, especially if you aren’t wealthy.

We really need to determine the underlying cause of autism (not to derail the thread), but the rate at which it has increased over time is insane, and I don’t attribute that simply to changes in our definitions or diagnostic testing.


We have a non verbal autistic child. Right now he is mostly manageable, however, if he were the size of my oldest son there is no way we could manage him safely. As of now we don't do vacations, we don't do much away from home, there is NOBODY that will watch him. He has been kicked out of programs designed for autistic and disabled children because he is too much for them to watch... well WTF, you think we have some special training or super powers?

No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:53 pm to
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No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.
I feel for you, I really do.

There are no good options available, especially as they grow older and become adults in size.

I have seen mothers with bruises and broken bones. How is a mother supposed to stop an aggressive 18 year old who cannot be reasoned with?

It isn’t possible.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176269 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:58 pm to
damn, they just arrested her daddy the other day too.

Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1173 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:01 pm to
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We have a non verbal autistic child. Right now he is mostly manageable, however, if he were the size of my oldest son there is no way we could manage him safely. As of now we don't do vacations, we don't do much away from home, there is NOBODY that will watch him. He has been kicked out of programs designed for autistic and disabled children because he is too much for them to watch... well WTF, you think we have some special training or super powers?

No idea where to go if he doesn't improve and gets bigger. The options are literally drop them off at the ED like it is said here and let the state deal with it... but you can't see them again or have big money to do a home with 24 hour care and check out privileges for the parents. We aren't poor, we both make livable incomes, but you need to be rich to afford these places. Ah, and the making decent money thing, we make too much to get any help and not enough to afford help. It's fricked up.


You're not alone. Same boat. And even if you could handle him you're not going to outlive him. Then what? Again, you're not alone.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10027 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Really? Mummified?


It was the word the sheriff used to describe her corpse due to her being severely malnourished, skin to bone, rotting in places, etc. If you picture a mummified body, I guess that's what popped into his head when he saw the dead girl.

Really sad story. Some folks aren't cut out to be parents to special needs kids. While institutionalizing these kids is distasteful, at best, I do feel the option should be there. It would help prevent things like this from happening.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141707 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:17 pm to
How do you become mummified in 24 hours?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13524 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:18 pm to
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This is, in fact, a huge problem. The libs wanted to get rid of mental institutions as being inhumane and so we did. Don’t get me wrong, some of those places were awful. But there’s a happy medium. Now, we have parents and other adults trying to take care of mentally impaired relatives without the means or ability because there’s just no other real alternative.


"Libs" did not want to get rid of mental institutions. They wanted mental institutes to be accountable for their abuse of the mentally ill and wanted the mentally ill to be treated humanely. This was, in the 1950s - 1970s, very mainstream thinking. It is a revisionist's history to suggest "libs" wanted them closed. It is not revisionist to state unequivocally that conservatives picked up the mainstream idea that something needed to be done about the abuses prevalent in mental institutes and their solution was to cut funding which did indeed wind up closing most mental institutes for the poor in the US. Ronald Reagan was largely responsible although access had been declining since the 1950s because mainstream Americans did not think it very becoming to have the mentally ill abused and mis treated the way they were. Americans wanted humane treatment for their fellow citizens, conservatives saw a chance to cut some funding. It really is that simple.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16729 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:27 pm to
Stick a funnel her her mouth, pour concrete mix down her gullet and super glue her mouth shut.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by G Khan
the basin
Member since Mar 2007
523 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 4:25 pm to
Horror story. That poor poor kid. It cuts deep when a kid is robbed of their potential from the start. Limited from living a full life. Like part of their soul is taken from them.

I have a daughter who is autistic. She is verbal and non-violent, but still hard to handle sometimes. I shudder at the thought of her in group home. She would be easy prey for abuse.

It sucks more than anything I have ever experienced. A full mindfrick. Only parents who are on the front lines living it can ever know the depths. Even with that, everyone's kid, kid's spectrum, and situation is different. Plenty I know personally have it way worse than us.

All you can do is try your best, keep fighting, and try to make the best decisions you can at the time a decision is needed.

The thing I struggle with the most is what constitutes a "meaningful life" for her? Tough tough stuff.

Positive wishes & strength to all of you out there in the trenches.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
14098 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 4:29 pm to
public. hanging.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35909 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:15 pm to
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mummified


I don’t think the person who wrote this story knows what that word means
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70905 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:18 pm to
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I’ve done zero scientific analysis on this but the rise in autism has coincided quite neatly with humans use of computers. I think there has to be some correlation there. How much time we spend using computers is changing our brains.


Had to scroll up to see if this were an el gaucho post.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216209 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:34 pm to
Exposed bones??? Damn.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:40 pm to
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Had to scroll up to see if this were an el gaucho post.
It is as good a theory as any.

Children, especially infants, are watching increasingly more television and using more tech than previous generations.
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