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re: Most iconic photo of the Vietnam War?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:22 am to TigersFan64
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:22 am to TigersFan64
I don't know how to host photos nor do i care to learn. However, my uncle was the LRP/RGR on Hambuger Hill that got struck by lightning just before the offensive to take the A Shau valley which turned the war towards an end.
There's a picture of him in the helo on the way in 3 days before the LRP team was struck.
Anyone interested can read about it and see the photos in several books written on the subject. His name is Ron Rucker, the LRPs called him Mother Rucker.
Fort Rucker is named after my great, great, great grandfather...a general in the Civil War.
Anyone interested in the pic I can send it to you so you can post it.
There's a picture of him in the helo on the way in 3 days before the LRP team was struck.
Anyone interested can read about it and see the photos in several books written on the subject. His name is Ron Rucker, the LRPs called him Mother Rucker.
Fort Rucker is named after my great, great, great grandfather...a general in the Civil War.
Anyone interested in the pic I can send it to you so you can post it.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:24 am
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:49 pm to TigersFan64
4th from the bottom is mine.
A swarm of Hueys leaving an LZ is iconic of Vietnam and what it was: war. War is a soldiers game, and in veitnam, hueys and LZ's were as American as just about anything. I certainly associate the two with our GI's.
A know a man who was a Huey pilot in Nam. He wound up getting stomach ulcers after the war and had some other problem that almost killed him that came from nothing more than stress from every time he'd hit an LZ.
He said you assumed you were going to die as soon as you broke the canopy, and you made that assumption dozens of times a day.
My what that man has witnessed and the duress he's been under when witnessing it...
A swarm of Hueys leaving an LZ is iconic of Vietnam and what it was: war. War is a soldiers game, and in veitnam, hueys and LZ's were as American as just about anything. I certainly associate the two with our GI's.
A know a man who was a Huey pilot in Nam. He wound up getting stomach ulcers after the war and had some other problem that almost killed him that came from nothing more than stress from every time he'd hit an LZ.
He said you assumed you were going to die as soon as you broke the canopy, and you made that assumption dozens of times a day.
My what that man has witnessed and the duress he's been under when witnessing it...
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:58 pm to TigersFan64
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:18 pm to AlonsoWDC
Ken Burns' series was great.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:22 pm to TigersFan64
Agreed.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:23 pm to willymeaux
It makes me wonder if we'd had another 100,000 ROK troops there, would the result have been different. I think those South Korean troops in South Vietnam were all volunteers, weren't they? It would explain their total dedication.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:26 pm to TigersFan64
The general shooting the VC or napalm girl.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:27 pm to SEClint
I'm pretty sure that I've read that this guy was indeed a Vietcong soldier. And the Vietcong were going around executing people all during the battle. Don't know if this particular guy had committed any atrocities, but he was VC.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:29 pm to willymeaux
Wow, he sure did. Great movie by a great film maker.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:33 pm to Cold Drink
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: seen it countless times and even still I start tearing up if I look at it too long. Any father with a daughter will understand
Oh shite. As a childless person I've always looked upon that photo with emotionless confusion.
Could you please explain it to me? What makes you sad about that picture of a screaming child in pain due to the horror of war?
Is it the lack of paved road beneath her? Is this about infrastructure?
I've always hoped that one day I may stumble upon one of these "Guys with a female child" I've heard rumor of so that they could explain this cryptic photo to me.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:41 pm to Obtuse1
The photo of the burning Buddhist monk is truly horrifying. According to Henry Cabot Lodge, JFK was totally appalled and shaken by it.
We really had no business being in Vietnam. It was so complex that it was beyond the average American's comprehension. And we were supporting a corrupt government that had little support of the people. Diem was Catholic in an overwhelmingly Buddhist country.
And had the U.S. not reneged on the deal to have elections to unify the country in about 1958 or so, the Vietnam War wouldn't have even been fought.
We really had no business being in Vietnam. It was so complex that it was beyond the average American's comprehension. And we were supporting a corrupt government that had little support of the people. Diem was Catholic in an overwhelmingly Buddhist country.
And had the U.S. not reneged on the deal to have elections to unify the country in about 1958 or so, the Vietnam War wouldn't have even been fought.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:46 pm to TigersFan64
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:53 pm to NATidefan
You’ve never been in combat. You lose your humanity after a while.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:56 pm to OMLandshark
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In other news Woody Allen is dating again!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 1:57 pm to willymeaux
RIP Doc J and 8 Ball.
Great movie.
Great movie.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:05 pm to JudgeHolden
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten those. They are pretty iconic, emblematic of the entire f'ed up war.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:07 pm to Bigbee Hills
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4th from the bottom is mine.
A swarm of Hueys leaving an LZ is iconic of Vietnam and what it was: war. War is a soldiers game, and in veitnam, hueys and LZ's were as American as just about anything. I certainly associate the two with our GI's.
A know a man who was a Huey pilot in Nam. He wound up getting stomach ulcers after the war and had some other problem that almost killed him that came from nothing more than stress from every time he'd hit an LZ.
He said you assumed you were going to die as soon as you broke the canopy, and you made that assumption dozens of times a day.
My what that man has witnessed and the duress he's been under when witnessing it...
My uncle was a machine gunner with 3/5 and got there right after the Tet Offensive. He ended up being a door gunner on a Huey after he got wounded twice. Went to college, got a commission, and flew them in the Army Reserve and NG until he retired.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:08 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
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Not many people know that ANZAC and ROK forces also sent troops to Vietnam. The ROK forces were known to be very brutal and feared by the NVA
Dad served alongside the RoK Marines at Da Nang. I have a RoK Marine blouse. He said they HATED the Vietnamese...no matter what brand of Vietnamese North or South. The RoKs were some of the hardest fighters in I Corps.
I think it was in the book Chickenhawk that the Huey pilot described the Koreans as "meaner than rats and bigger than most dogs".
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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After getting shot in the head?!
Not sure if you're joking, because a lot of people don't realize Nguyen Ngoc Loan moved to the US and opened a restaurant.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:10 pm to TigersFan64
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It was so complex that it was beyond the average American's comprehension.
I was watching Ken Burns doc. During this part where this kid was protesting the was knocked on this house where the woman opened the door. The woman had a son died in VN. She said something along that “her son die so he can protest” and then threatened to shoot him the next time he knocks. There were a lot of countries who protested the war without send a single troop. Her son died for the sh@tty politicians. They are the one who sent her son over the far side of the world. This kid who knocked on the door was trying to prevent future Americans from sending troops over. The mom’s anger should’ve been at the gov officials involved and called them out for it.
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