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re: Most iconic photo of the Vietnam War?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:41 pm to MountainTiger
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:41 pm to MountainTiger
Chickenhawk is a great read. I remember reading it when it first came out while I was stationed in Iceland in 1983-84.
I remember Robert Mason was actually doing time when the book was on the best-seller list. I still have the hardback edition I purchased when it was new.
I remember Robert Mason was actually doing time when the book was on the best-seller list. I still have the hardback edition I purchased when it was new.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:42 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Damn war is hell.
Reminds me of another iconic picture. The Faas photo.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:48 pm to PeteRose
I agree. The Vietnam folly was built upon assumptions by policy makers that were totally false, first of which was the "domino theory" first pushed by hardliners such as John Foster Dulles in the 1950's. The other fallacy by U.S. policy makers was that the war in South Vietnam was "aggression" and "invasion." It was actually a civil war that we got mixed up in.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:52 pm to Tigerhead
Wow, that's pretty cool. I'd never seen that photo before. Yeah, I hope he made it home.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:54 pm to Obtuse1
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The soldier with his arms up is guiding an evac helo.
Yes. Thanks. I was about to respond when I noticed you'd beat me to it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:57 pm to Obtuse1
The 1000 mile stare. Just one of many who had it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:17 pm to Obtuse1
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While technically not a picture of or even during the US involvement in Vietnam the Monk has always been the most powerful photo
Actually, the United States already had thousands of military advisors and special forces personnel assisting the Republic of Vietnam by the spring of 1963 (MACV under the command of General Paul D. Harkins), which is when (I believe) the photo of the monk burning himself alive was taken. By the end of 1963, there were about 16,000 American military personnel in South Vietnam. I actually think President Eisenhower sent in the first military advisors in about 1959, which is when the North Vietnamese made the decision to challenge the Diem government militarily after the elections to unify the country were never held. The NLF (National Liberation Front) was formed in 1960. By the late-1950's, it was already the policy of the Eisenhower administration that South Vietnam could not fall to the communists. And JFK adopted that policy when he became President.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:19 pm to TigersFan64
I'm hoping someone knows if he survived and will comment.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:33 pm to Bigbee Hills
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4th from the bottom is mine.
Mine as well.
Pops was Air Cav over there. Got hurt in ‘69. ALOT of the fellas in his Company never made it back....alive that is.
RIP to the fallen of The Ruthless Riders
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:35 pm to TigersFan64
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:45 pm to TigersFan64
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I agree. The Vietnam folly was built upon assumptions by policy makers that were totally false, first of which was the "domino theory" first pushed by hardliners such as John Foster Dulles in the 1950's. The other fallacy by U.S. policy makers was that the war in South Vietnam was "aggression" and "invasion." It was actually a civil war that we got mixed up in.
The domino theory can't not be dismissed as both Thai and the Philippine communist insurgents were not supported by the Chinese and Russians. It is reasonable to assume that our involvement in Vietnam halted the spread of communism.
The war in Vietnam was absolutely a war of aggression and invasion, whole NVA divisions were invading the South.
Finally in many ways Vietnamization was working but the New Left Communist Democratic Party of the US decided to defund South Vietnam and the end was predictable.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:58 pm to Tigerbait357
Thanks can’t upvote this enough. The sheer odds of her still alive is truly a miracle. Anyone know when that picture( napalm girl) was taken?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:01 pm to OleWar
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The domino theory can't not be dismissed
It can be totally dismissed, as the fall of South Vietnam did not lead to a communist takeover of the whole of Southeast Asia, as proponents of the domino theory warned. And it can even be argued with good credibility that the U.S. expansion of the war into Cambodia actually CAUSED that country to fall to the communist Khmer Rouge, due to our bombing campaign which destabilized that country.
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The war in Vietnam was absolutely a war of aggression and invasion, whole NVA divisions were invading the South.
It was actually a civil war fought by people who were ethnically the same. And what's more, the U.S. reneging on the agreement to hold elections to unify the country in 1956 actually caused the beginning of the Vietnam War. Had we left well enough alone and stayed out of it, accounts would have been settled back in the 1950's without the deaths of millions of Southeast Asians and over 58,000 Americans. And we'd have basically the same situation as we have today over there.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:18 pm to OleWar
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Finally in many ways Vietnamization was working but the New Left Communist Democratic Party of the US decided to defund South Vietnam and the end was predictable.
And maybe if POS Nixon and Kissinger had not sold out the South Vietnamese with their shitty "peace" plan which allowed North Vietnamese troops to remain in place in South Vietnam, the war in South Vietnam might not have been a foregone conclusion after 1972. Oh, but Nixon got what he wanted from the Paris Peace Accords - a landslide victory in 1972. That was more important than not selling out the South Vietnamese, as Nixon and Kissinger did.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:26 pm to LSUERDOC
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You’ve never been in combat. You lose your humanity after a while.
No you don’t. And that’s what makes the afterwords suck.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:29 pm to TigersFan64
Trump’s foot X-ray
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:41 pm to bhtigerfan
The expression on that old dog's face is priceless! Those eyes! LOL ETA: They should have let him/her have a cupcake.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:46 pm to TigerJeff
Isn't it almost miraculous how his bone spurs went away after the threat of being drafted was over?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:46 pm to TigersFan64
You do understand that there were communist insurgencies throughout East Asia?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:49 pm to OleWar
Do you not understand that Southeast Asia didn't fall to the communists after the fall of South Vietnam, like morons such as John Foster Dulles and Joe McCarthy warned?
And that Nixon and Kissinger sold out the South Vietnamese in exchange for a horrible peace deal?
And that Nixon and Kissinger sold out the South Vietnamese in exchange for a horrible peace deal?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:51 pm
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