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re: Most iconic photo of the Vietnam War?

Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Gondor
Jacksonville, Fl
Member since Nov 2004
1030 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:11 pm to
Very Powerful post. Brings back a lot of memories most not very good.

I believe the best for me is the coming home shot. I was just too young to get drafted to go over there. A lot of the older brothers/uncles of friends whet and the most disgraceful this we ever did as a country was how we treated them when they returned. This was not their war, but the suffered and died as ordered and when they returned they were treated as shite and called "Baby Killers" (frick you John Kerry).
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:17 pm to
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That is a picture of an NVA officer executing a south Vietnamese citizen or "political dissident"


General Nguyen Loan was a South Vietnamese officer in their national police force. And Nguyen Lem wasn’t a “political” dissident. He was VC. He was caught leading a group of VC hit squad who had just killed several police officers and their families as well as a couple Americans.

And yes, according to the Geneva Convention, summary execution was allowed.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 2:21 pm to
The reason Tet was such a decisive strategic win for the North Vietnamese (while being a devastating tactical defeat for them) was that the war-weary American public had been told repeatedly that the U.S. was "winning" and making progress in Vietnam. Then Tet happened. The vision of the American embassy in Saigon being temporarily overrun and Marines being besieged at Khe Sanh along with the battle for Hue shocked the public. Ironically, even though I'm absolutely no fan of Westmoreland, sending in an additional 200,000 troops after Tet and going on the offensive, in a purely military sense anyway, probably made a lot of sense. The American people by then were not up for that, though.
Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:03 pm to
I don't know who this Tiger (pilot) is, but I hope he made it home.



Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:10 pm to
You could have put some captions you lazy POS
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Oh shite. As a childless person I've always looked upon that photo with emotionless confusion. Could you please explain it to me? What makes you sad about that picture of a screaming child in pain due to the horror of war? Is it the lack of paved road beneath her? Is this about infrastructure? I've always hoped that one day I may stumble upon one of these "Guys with a female child" I've heard rumor of so that they could explain this cryptic photo to me.
calm down, baw
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:53 pm to
I can vividly remember when all that was happening. I was eleven at the time and we watched the evening news every day. I can remember my dad commenting on such a waste of military hardware. But they had no choice but to dump them. I think that was known as Operation Frequent Wind.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77244 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:01 pm to
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TigersFan64


What is going on in the first photo? I see several people looking upwards, people wounded, people being assisted,

???
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30520 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:07 pm to
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What is going on in the first photo?


That is the Greenspon photo from I think 68 or 69. The soldier with his arms up is guiding an evac helo.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:09 pm to
Napalm is such a horrific weapon, although terribly effective as long as they can avoid dropping it on our own people. That guy in the link was very, very lucky. I think napalm has been outlawed today.

My dad served with the 7th Marines (E/2/7) in Korea from Dec/'50 to Dec/'51. Then the Marines were still using F4U Corsairs for close ground support and my dad said they loved them (as well as other prop planes) in ground support. He said the jets at the time, like the F-80 Shooting Star, used as ground attack aircraft flew too fast and often missed the target, but he said those Corsairs were great at it. He often witnessed them dropping napalm on Chinese/North Korean positions, and he saw the terrible results of napalm firsthand. He said they liked it because it made their job a lot easier in taking enemy positions, but he would often shake his head and comment on what a terribly cruel weapon it was. I could tell the memory of it was very unpleasant for him.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19271 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:11 pm to
Why pic 1 it’s pointless


Some may get that
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20846 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:13 pm to
Damn war is hell.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:19 pm to
Great scene.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:23 pm to
I didn't know he'd survived the war. I know he was later badly wounded during the fighting in Saigon. Glad he made it out.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:24 pm to
That one is pretty powerful as well.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:25 pm to
Wow. Didn't know that. Sad indeed.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:27 pm to
Great movie.
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
4229 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

a soldier nonchalantly getting out some chew all in one pic.


When it is time to Cope it is time to Cope.

Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:29 pm to
Oh okay. My bad. I always assumed it was the embassy.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7847 posts
Posted on 5/15/19 at 7:35 pm to
God Bless those who gave the ultimate sacrifice

God bless those who have served

Napalm was some bad shite
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