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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:54 pm to White Roach
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:54 pm to White Roach
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Maybe I'm misusing flow for velocity, but I believe the Corps calls it flow. Perhaps flow rate.
If X volume of water moves thru river cross section A in 1 second, does the same volume move through a downstream river cross section that is 10% larger than A in 1 second? It seems like the flow (flow rate? Velocity?) would decrease to me. I always thought the increasing channel depth and river width slowed the river as it got closer to the mouth.
So volume and mass always have to be conserved (because water is not compressed)- what goes in must come out, unless otherwise detained like I mentioned previously.
With that in mind Q=V*A
Where Q=flow, V=velocity, and A=Cross sectional area
So for example, say a hypothetical river has a cross sectional area of 30 feet wide by 10 feet deep rectangle, and has a uniform velocity of 10 ft/second.
That flow is going to be equal to Q=V*A=(10 ft/s)*(10 ft x 30 feet)=3000 ft3/second.
Now say that river comes to a point where it gets really narrow-say 5 feet wide. Assuming it keeps the same energy head, it's going to have the same flow with a much higher velocity.
3000 ft3/s=V2*(5 ft wide x 10 ft high)
=>V2=(3000 ft3/s)/(50 ft2)=60 ft/s
This is obviously simplified and has many assumptions but you get the basic idea.
Eta:
quote:
. I always thought the increasing channel depth and river width slowed the river as it got closer to the mouth.
Thats true, but the total volume of water moving down stream is basically constant past Bonne Carre to bird foot delta.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:10 pm to NYNolaguy1
For open channels, flow at a particular cross section is primarily a function of energy slope, channel shape, flow depth, and bed roughness. It can be approximated using Manning's Equation.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:18 pm to FutureMikeVIII
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For open channels, flow at a particular cross is primarily a function of energy slope, channel shape, flow depth, and bed roughness. It can be approximated using Manning's Equation.
Yup.
Things get really interesting when you get from one side of the energy curve to another via hydraulic jump with identical flows and two different elevation and velocity heads.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:08 pm to FutureMikeVIII
quote:Awwwww shite now the threads getting fun
Mannings
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:10 pm to jimbeam
We need a sticky for a Mississippi river flooding 2019.
it's going to be a bad year for flooding up and down the river. It was starting to swell as it was, and now with more snow north, and all this rain were getting, it is going to be really ugly for those in the flood zones this Spring-Summer..
it's going to be a bad year for flooding up and down the river. It was starting to swell as it was, and now with more snow north, and all this rain were getting, it is going to be really ugly for those in the flood zones this Spring-Summer..
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:13 pm to FutureMikeVIII
I’m about to get Fluids PTSD
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:48 pm to jimbeam
Got me tingling all over 
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:08 pm to SeeeeK
Big rains from Memphis to north of St Louis now. Not looking good.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:18 pm to crazyLSUstudent
quote:
Got my tingling all over
Don’t need no peptides to get fully developed flow in this thread
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:39 pm to Riolobo
Doesn't look like anything too bad though. Seems to be moving fast and not dumping much. Saw they had flooding rains in some parts of Nebraska and snow in the others
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:43 pm to FutureMikeVIII
That wetted perimeter though
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:48 pm to SeeeeK
We need to bring the flood board from 2011 back.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:55 pm to The Boat
My flood insurance kicks in at midnight :)
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 12:06 am to Ruxins Rascals
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water nerds
Speaking of..... Who will be in Houston the first week of April?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:18 am to BayouBengals18
Flood alerts for St.Louis City and County already in full force.
.5 inches from flood stage, and the shite from the North hasn't started coming down yet.
.5 inches from flood stage, and the shite from the North hasn't started coming down yet.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:53 am to TDsngumbo
Bad storms now north of Memphis. Hopefully after this morning this shite will stop for a while.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:40 am to Riolobo
Curious to see if anything changes in forecast with current conditions factored in
Posted on 3/14/19 at 8:07 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Agree. If they do bump it up hopefully it will not be much.
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