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re: Monthly mortgage payment based on a median existing home is now at a record $2,322

Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:14 pm to
A redistribution of wealth is coming… those with the means can either decide to fight it or not… the longer it takes the messier it will be.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5597 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:17 pm to
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For all the things I bitch about with my house, I consider myself so lucky. frick this market.


same. got in with my house in 2018. so dodged some pretty steep price hikes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:19 pm to
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A redistribution of wealth is coming…


Big time.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9748 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:22 pm to
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A redistribution of wealth is coming


The only 'redistribution' of wealth that is coming is baby boomers dying off and leaving their homes, 401k's, etc to their children, nephews, etc.

Whole lot of Gen X'ers and Millennials will be buying homes in cash when that happens.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11654 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:23 pm to
I do find it funny that you will deny data from the Fed because it goes against your own personal experience

Yes, the single experience of a high earner in a low cost of living area defines the trend for the entire country
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57826 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:24 pm to
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The only 'redistribution' of wealth that is coming is baby boomers dying off and leaving their homes, 401k's, etc to their children, nephews, etc.

most boomers don't have shite
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38459 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:27 pm to
Except the data completely contradicts that opinion piece. The younger generations have put off many of the activities that previous generations participated in at much earlier ages. Marriage, children, home buying etc etc are all happening later and later for millennials and gen Z.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:28 pm to
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I do find it funny that you will deny data from the Fed because it goes against your own personal experience


That’s called critical thinking apparently.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22480 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:31 pm to
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The only 'redistribution' of wealth that is coming is baby boomers dying off and leaving their homes, 401k's, etc to their children, nephews, etc. Whole lot of Gen X'ers and Millennials will be buying homes in cash when that happens


That still mostly concentrates wealth within families and does nothing for those struggling.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9748 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:39 pm to
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most boomers don't have shite




They hold half the nations 140 trillion in wealth. 78.3 Trillion in assets. You must know the wrong baby boomers. Those greedy fricks are flush with cash and assets.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36270 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:41 pm to
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Except the data completely contradicts that opinion piece. The younger generations have put off many of the activities that previous generations participated in at much earlier ages. Marriage, children, home buying etc etc are all happening later and later for millennials and gen Z.




Did you skip the part about the girl who got a reality check thinking she should be more advanced in her career when she was an HR manager at 29?

I will admit what you said is right. Marriage is trending downward in general, but younger people are waiting longer to marry if they do so. Same with children. Some of this is a function of career first pursuits, but there is a not-insignificant amount who do it for selfish reasons. A guy a work with doesn't want to marry or have children so he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:45 pm to
Yes. I didn’t really put much weight on the individuals describing their personal anecdotes.


Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36270 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:46 pm to
You think she is alone in that mindset?
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17077 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:47 pm to
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there’s a very good chance that neighborhood is ghetto now


No doubt. That's why it's called a "starter home" and not a "forever home"
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38459 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:51 pm to
Alone? Probably not.


But the numbers show that for a number of reasons, younger people are delaying major purchases and life events versus the older generations at that age.

Not really disputable.

If they were truly the instant gratification whores you believe they would be buying houses, popping out kids and getting into insane levels of consumer debt like boomers and gen x did in the mid 80s to present.

But they aren’t.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35210 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't have a poor grasp of anything. Are home prices rising faster than ever before? Yes.

Have rising rates exacerbated that issue? Yes.

Are wages growing at the same rate? No.

Do people make life harder on themselves by choosing low(er) paying fields and then compound that with rampant consumerism? Yes.

Are people expecting gratification at a faster pace than ever before? Also yes

All of the above are correct.

But by admitting to all of this you essentially admit that if someone today had the same expectations as another person 20 years ago and made the same decisions in regards to education, they would still be behind and be in a worse position, right?

I'm fortunate, I chose a very solid field of study, I don't have student loans, and I bought my house before the increase in property values and interest rates. Did I create some of that fortune? Yes, but if I had made the same life decisions and was born 10 years later, I would be staring at a mortgage that is $1,200 more per month for the same house that I currently live in.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75424 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:32 am to
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They hold half the nations 140 trillion in wealth. 78.3 Trillion in assets. You must know the wrong baby boomers. Those greedy fricks are flush with cash and assets.


i’m sure it’s pretty evenly distributed too.

defenily not like 1000 super rich guys owning 99% of that
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4552 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:47 am to
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most boomers don't have shite


Some do but to your point it’s not the majority.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42770 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:48 am to
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Can’t afford it, don’t buy it. That simple.
The democrats dream for future America

Government owned everything “leased” back to the people


Sounds like the USSR.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18603 posts
Posted on 9/3/23 at 2:37 pm to
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$235k? What the hell is she making now for mortgage rates to be the reason to turn that down?
About 125K remote from Memorial Hermann. $85/hour - full time as Epic consultant remote.
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