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re: Moderna launches coronavirus vaccine Phase 3 trial - 30,000 US Participants

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Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78731 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:04 am to
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Most of the rest of us are probably okay for now.


That’s the scary part. As this virus continues to mutate who knows how bad it’s going to be 2-3 years from now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:05 am to
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You guys claim or insinuate this with every story and every company mentioned in relation to a vaccine




I'm not some conspiracy theorist. I think this is the one with the most potential.

Just confirming that this is the one Fauci is affiliated with, as implied.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:06 am to
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I think they are tying to get ahead of it. Covid, like the flu, may become a permanent fixture in life. We need to protect the people vulnerable to it - those over 60, diabetics, and certainly nursing home residents.



Maybe so, but that permanent fixture may not be nearly as severe as it has been for this initial outbreak, with or without a vaccine.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:06 am to
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My point still stands that vaccines are part of herd immunity strategies.


Right

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I'm saying "experts" are acting as though our immune systems will never be able to handle this virus, without a vaccine.


I'm not sure what you mean by this though

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We'll survive this, with or without a vaccine.



I haven't seen a single person argue that COVID is a world ender
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:07 am to
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That’s the scary part. As this virus continues to mutate who knows how bad it’s going to be 2-3 years from now.


Much more likely to become a common cold than a true killer.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:08 am to
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That’s the scary part. As this virus continues to mutate who knows how bad it’s going to be 2-3 years from now.


All viruses evolve over time. Covid may get weaker for all we know and some other thing flares up.

It’s not something we can really control either way, so no sense of being scared over it. We just try to prepare for the next pandemic and live the best life we can.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:09 am to
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herd immunity possible?


SARS ppl have lasting immunity per Duke medical study.

SARS was basis for lots of COVID vaccine work.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:09 am to
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All viruses evolve over time. Covid may get weaker for all we know and some other thing flares up.



Some epidemiologists are already arguing that it is weaker.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:12 am to
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I'm not sure what you mean by this though


The reaction is against anything that's ever been put forth as an option. Societal shutdown has been argued against previously, but now it's the go to move?

We can't get back to "normal" or even our "new normal" without a vaccine.

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I haven't seen a single person argue that COVID is a world ender


You haven't been paying attention. See above sentences.

You've got some blue-checkmark, media folks that, according to their Twitter posts, haven't left their apartments/homes for any reason for the past 130+ days.

There are most definitely people out there that think (want?) this will kill at the rates of Spanish Flu.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:14 am to
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You've got some blue-checkmark, media folks that, according to their Twitter posts, haven't left their apartments/homes for any reason for the past 130+ days.

There are most definitely people out there that think (want?) this will kill at the rates of Spanish Flu.



ok sorry

I haven't seen a single person of value argue that COVID is a world ender

some of y'all pay way too much attention to tards on Twitter
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:20 am to
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I haven't seen a single person of value argue that COVID is a world ender



Say versus act.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37627 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:20 am to
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Just confirming that this is the one Fauci is affiliated with, as implied.


In what way is he affiliated? Link? I did a quick search and didn't see anything other than his comments on the vaccine candidate itself.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:21 am to
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person of value argue it's a world ender


Lots of people are.
It's not true or remotely rational.

Our Senate is proposing $150 billion for school safety.

Roughly 15 x the price tag of vaccine effort!

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71735 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:22 am to
I don't care if the vaccine isn't that effective. If it makes these pussies feel safer about leaving their houses and getting this country moving again, I'm all for the damn thing.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:22 am to
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In what way is he affiliated?


Moderna is parterning with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for this vaccine. They are doing it in conjunction.

Fauci is the Director of that organization.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37627 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:24 am to
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Moderna is parterning with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for this vaccine. They are doing it in conjunction.

Fauci is the Director of that organization.


And? What are you suggesting given that this is the case? I believe they are partnering with many companies on many potential vaccine candidates.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:24 am to
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Fauci is the Director of that organization.



Why hasn't Pence or Trump fired him/removed him from the Task Force? Just curious...
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60275 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:25 am to
Will this covid vaccine connect to Apple Pay or does another vaccine do that?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:26 am to
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And? What are you suggesting given that this is the case?


Nothing whatsoever. I do not believe the conspiracy theories and think this Moderna vaccine is the most promising one.

I was simply confirming to the poster that sarcastically asked how much Fauci had invested in this one that he is in fact affiliated with this vaccine.

Others can run with their conspiracy theories if they want. It was simply a statement of fact.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:26 am to
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However, I do love how millions of years of immune system evolution has suddenly been deemed worthless by "experts" with this thing.
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