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Moderna launches coronavirus vaccine Phase 3 trial - 30,000 US Participants

Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:41 am
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Moderna launches coronavirus vaccine Phase 3 trial

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Massachusetts biotech company Moderna launched Phase 3 of its coronavirus vaccine trial on Monday.

Moderna anticipates enrolling 30,000 U.S. participants.

There's still no guarantee that the experimental vaccine, developed by the National Institutes of Health and Moderna, will really protect the participants.

The needed proof: Volunteers won’t know if they’re getting the real shot or a dummy version. After two doses, scientists will closely track which group experiences more infections as they go about their daily routines, especially in areas where the virus still is spreading unchecked.

Moderna is working with the NIH and Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority to develop its vaccine as part of Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration's effort to pinpoint and accelerate the most effective coronavirus vaccines.

The drugmaker announced Sunday it was awarded $472 million more via BARDA to help develop its potential vaccine.

Moderna's stock surged in mid-July following positive results from the company's "Phase 1" study of its mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccine candidate.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:41 am to
really looking forward to the vaccine war threads

gonna be lit
Posted by dukeg7
Louisiana
Member since May 2019
252 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:42 am to
Moderna fixing to become loaded
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2615 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:42 am to
So how much Moderna stock does Fauci own?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:42 am to
Wouldn't this be one of the great achievements of humanity if this vaccine actually works given the speed of development?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:42 am to
I'm looking forward to the goalposts being moved again once a vaccine comes out.

This entire fiasco has been become so political it's hilarious.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:43 am to
They are given two shots, a month apart. So at the end of August, a large portion of participants will have the full dosage and the trial basically really begins then.

They will like wait about 3 months to see how things are going. After that time period, its highly likely that if it is successful, it will get at least some emergency use for a much larger population.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106160 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:43 am to
There's a vaccine trial underway in Monroe. I assume it's this one.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:44 am to
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So how much Moderna stock does Fauci own?



This is the one that Fauci is affiliated with.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:44 am to
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The needed proof: Volunteers won’t know if they’re getting the real shot or a dummy version. After two doses, scientists will closely track which group experiences more infections as they go about their daily routines, especially in areas where the virus still is spreading unchecked.



Is this how phase 3 trials work?

It's not a "challenge" type of test?

Seems like they are putting the random in random trial here by not know if/when a participate is actually exposed to the virus.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:44 am to
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After that time period, its highly likely that if it is successful, it will get at least some emergency use for a much larger population.


Teachers should get it first so they can shut the frick up and go back to work.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:44 am to
Zombies incoming. 2020 ain't done yet.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:46 am to
If we are at herd status by end of year is this even necessary?
Especially for healthy people.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131968 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:47 am to
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If we are at herd status by end of year is this even necessary?
Especially for healthy people.


We don't even know if herd immunity is possible with this.

I'm hoping it is since I got it but we will see
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:52 am to
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We don't even know if herd immunity is possible with this.



You better hope it is, as a vaccine is part of most "herd immunity" strategies.



However, I do love how millions of years of immune system evolution has suddenly been deemed worthless by "experts" with this thing.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:55 am to
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You better hope it is, as a vaccine is part of most "herd immunity" strategies.



I think he meant that we don't know if we could naturally achieve it

quote:

However, I do love how millions of years of immune system evolution has suddenly been deemed worthless by "experts" with this thing.


if we could develop a vaccine that prevents lots of suffering and loss, why wouldn't we?

we have done it plenty of times already
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 9:55 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:56 am to
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This entire fiasco has been become so political it's hilarious.



Indeed...

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37627 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:

This is the one that Fauci is affiliated with.


You guys claim or insinuate this with every story and every company mentioned in relation to a vaccine
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:02 am to
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However, I do love how millions of years of immune system evolution has suddenly been deemed worthless by "experts" with this thing.


I think they are tying to get ahead of it. Covid, like the flu, may become a permanent fixture in life. We need to protect the people vulnerable to it - those over 60, diabetics, and certainly nursing home residents.

Most of the rest of us are probably okay for now.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I think he meant that we don't know if we could naturally achieve it

quote:

if we could develop a vaccine that prevents lots of suffering and loss, why wouldn't we?

we have done it plenty of times already


These go hand in hand, but it doesn't matter what the poster meant. Natural herd immunity will likely be attained, both because of our immune systems and evolution of the virus. My point still stands that vaccines are part of herd immunity strategies.

I'm not saying a vaccine should not have been/be worked on.

I'm saying "experts" are acting as though our immune systems will never be able to handle this virus, without a vaccine.




We'll survive this, with or without a vaccine.
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