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MO school district switches to 4 day week schedule due to teacher and funding shortage
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:46 am
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Missouri school district votes to adopt 4-day school week
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A Missouri school district voted Tuesday evening to adopt a four-day school week starting in fall 2023.
The decision marks the first time Independence School District will make such a switch, according to Superintendent Dr. Dale Herl.
"The impetus behind it was to attract and retain staff," Herl told "Good Morning America" Wednesday, noting that discussions for the proposal began back in August.
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"If you look across the country, there is a significant teacher shortage but it even goes beyond teachers as well. There's a shortage for individuals who can drive buses, paraprofessionals, so it's not just about trying to fill teaching positions but certainly that's something that we're very focused upon," Herl said.
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Nationally, teachers who have walked away from the profession have cited burnout, a lack of respect and low compensation as reasons for leaving.
Herl said Independence School District's starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150 and tops out at $81,713 for a veteran teacher, but like many school districts around the U.S., it has seen fewer applicants for teaching and staff positions in recent years, especially those in special education and STEM fields, due to a variety of factors.
"I think it's a combination of things. It's everything from compensation to work-life balance to the amount of time it takes to be a teacher," Herl said, adding that he's noticed
Missouri universities have also graduated fewer education students as well.
But the move to four days for teachers and students has at least made an immediate impact, said Herl. "Since the discussions started with the school board regarding a four day week, we looked at the applicants that we've received, and our applications are up almost 40% compared to the same time last year," the superintendent said.
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Have fun with it, OT.
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:47 am to StringedInstruments
This isn't a new thing.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:48 am to StringedInstruments
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:48 am to Billy Blanks
Yeah they've been doing that here in rural Oklahoma for several years.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:49 am to Billy Blanks
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This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 3:40 am
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:51 am to OleVaught14
I agree.
Any able-bodied schmo can drive a forklift at a DC and make more money than this and they don't have the responsibility of teaching the next generation to carry with them.
If you increase that pay, you will see more qualified candidates. I'm sure there's a ceiling where if you go above a certain amount you start attracting the wrong people in the opposite direction, but I can't imagine a school district offering starting pay at $60k wouldn't see positive results.
Any able-bodied schmo can drive a forklift at a DC and make more money than this and they don't have the responsibility of teaching the next generation to carry with them.
If you increase that pay, you will see more qualified candidates. I'm sure there's a ceiling where if you go above a certain amount you start attracting the wrong people in the opposite direction, but I can't imagine a school district offering starting pay at $60k wouldn't see positive results.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:52 am to OleVaught14
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
No federal income taxes for public school teachers?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:53 am to StringedInstruments
Work 9 months a year with every week 3 day weekends and a 4 day weekend built in with holidays at least once a month with Easter/spring/thanksgiving/Christmas break
Not bad for $41,000 a year honestly
Not bad for $41,000 a year honestly
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:55 am to StringedInstruments
It’s not just the pay. It’s having to deal with shithead kids and their shithead parents day in and day out. A kid can essentially attack a teacher or any other staff and get away with it now because if the staff member retaliates then they’re the ones punished. Why would anyone want to work in those conditions?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:56 am to Lawyered
I think the misconception here is that you don't want people who are looking for a cush schedule with th caveat being the pay is not great.
Ideally you'd want someone who wants to make sure their classes are doing well, their children are supported and have all the tools. That type of person is already working somewhere, likely in the corporate world as a lawyer/accountant/manager making $70-100k a year.
Ideally you'd want someone who wants to make sure their classes are doing well, their children are supported and have all the tools. That type of person is already working somewhere, likely in the corporate world as a lawyer/accountant/manager making $70-100k a year.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:57 am to OleVaught14
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
I’m a teacher FWIW.
I disagree with this idea that pay will solve the problems in education unless you’re talking about significantly raising teacher pay to numbers that build wealth. The job isn’t worth that much money. Even if it was, would it still attract the talent to be able to instruct students at a high level while also managing the social and emotional damage that many kids bring to the table?
Also, if teacher pay now is so bad that it’s contributing to poor teacher performance in schools, then we should be be able to point to a time when education was adequate and see a correlation with high teacher pay. I bet that doesn’t exist.
The problem is that public schools kowtow to politics (on both sides) that are detrimental to teacher performance and student learning outcomes. No amount of money will solve those problems.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:58 am to StringedInstruments
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Even if it was, would it still attract the talent to be able to instruct students at a high level while also managing the social and emotional damage that many kids bring to the table?
Probably, yes.
A steady, well paying government job? Yes, it would attract the talent.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:00 am to Lawyered
quote:You don’t know what you’re talking about. Teachers do a lot of work after school, on the weekends, and in the summer that they don’t get paid for. Try sitting in a classroom sometime.
Work 9 months a year with every week 3 day weekends and a 4 day weekend built in with holidays at least once a month with Easter/spring/thanksgiving/Christmas break
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:00 am to OleVaught14
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starting pay for teachers begins at $41,150
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If we want better teachers, at some point this is going to have to change.
1 - eliminate the unions that take a big portion of education dollars
2 - eliminate the Dept of Ed and let the states take care of their educational decisions.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:04 am to StringedInstruments
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cited burnout
weak people people go into the teaching profession. Not surprising they lack the stamina to stick with their choice
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, a lack of respect
a direct result of the policies and values they themselves endorse and propagate. They coddle students and demand nothing. Then they're shocked when parents nor students respect them. LOL
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and low compensation as reasons for leaving.
they chose a profession with notoriously low wages and do little to nothing to solicit support for wage improvements. Boo hoo. Educators created this shite show, continue to promote it, and are suffering from it. I have no sympathy for them.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:04 am to tigergirl10
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You don’t know what you’re talking about. Teachers do a lot of work after school, on the weekends, and in the summer that they don’t get paid for. Try sitting in a classroom sometime.
Exactly. And that’s just the “routine” stuff.
Have a kid with suicidal ideation? That kid has to be tethered to you until you get them handed off to someone safe. Which means if it’s at dismissal you’re hanging out with a kid and making sure he doesn’t end his life…for as long as it takes.
Teachers are first line of defense for all the bad things that go down in schools. It ain’t a cush job.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:08 am to StringedInstruments
So kids are only going to get 80% of the education they used to get? Sounds competitive. By 12th grade they won't even have the equivalent education of a 10th grade somewhere else.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:12 am to StringedInstruments
They did this in Austin. Apparently rent is too high for teachers to afford on their crap salaries.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:12 am to Odysseus32
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Any able-bodied schmo can drive a forklift at a DC and make more money than this and they don't have the responsibility of teaching the next generation to carry with them.
My 12th grade English teacher had a PhD and knew his shite about Chaucer and Shakespeare. A few years after I graduated he quit to work as a logging contractor.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:13 am to StringedInstruments
Acadia Parish in Louisiana may be switching to 4 day week next school year
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