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re: Missouri man wants cop charged for opening his car door while investigating car break-ins

Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:26 pm to
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At some point you would be OK with this. What if he were looking for a missing child


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:27 pm to
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That being said, this dude is an a-hole and I hope he gets very little police service in the future.


If he showed up to your door and asked to search your house without a warrant, do you say yes?
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Opening a car door to a vehicle and entering the vehicle when you have no warrant or probable cause that a crime is occurring in the vehicle should definitely be frowned upon.


Given that they had several car burglaries in the vicinity, the cops have more than enough reasonable suspicion to check if other nearby vehicles were burglarized.


So if there were a few local home burglaries, would the cops be allowed to just start opening the doors of houses and look around?
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11676 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:55 pm to
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So if there were a few local home burglaries, would the cops be allowed to just start opening the doors of houses and looking around?


C'mon man.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17814 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 2:57 pm to
I get what the cops were doing, but personally I am not ok with it. I dont want any cops going into my car without my permission.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21397 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 3:03 pm to
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He had a reason to.

No he didn't.
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At some point you would be OK with this.

Literally at no point would i be ok with this.
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What if he were looking for a missing child?

Idgaf, still.
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What if someone broke your door down because your house was on fire and you didn't know it?

There's a reason my exterior door swings out, and it's so it can't be kicked in
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Cop was just trying to see if he was a victim of a break in, Jesus.

So he was doing the exact same actions as the alleged criminal? Hope that cop never gets assigned to a homicide.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 3:05 pm to
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So he was doing the exact same actions as the alleged criminal?
The alleged criminal was just trying to see if people were the victims of a break in?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11676 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 3:08 pm to
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The alleged criminal was just trying to see if people were the victims of a break in?


No, the cop investigating the break ins was. And the owner of one the cars the cop looked in wants the cop charged with breaking and entering.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77956 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 3:19 pm to
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So a cop is out in the freezing arse cold searching for perps or stolen merch and this POS instead of inquiring 1st with the PD wants to just go ahead and sue or prosecute is what America has become. frick that guy!
What reason did the cop have to actually enter the vehicle?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77956 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 3:21 pm to
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He had a reason to.
Which was what?
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What if he were looking for a missing child?
He wasn’t.

Let us have that situation occur and then the cop can ask for permission from the owner.
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What if someone broke your door down because your house was on fire and you didn't know it?
Entirely different scenario, and you know it.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:11 pm to
dont care what his intentions were, which i will assume were honorable, but then maybe the cop was the car theif? think about it, its the perfect crime and who would ever suspect?

any way, that is clear cut and dry unlawful entry, unlawful search since he was looking around inside the car, and whether you support the police or not both of those are criminal acts and the very crime he is out there looking to arrest someone else for doing
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:19 pm to
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breaking and entering” isn’t an offense. The closest thing would be burglary or trespassing, but in both cases, you would have to prove criminal intent.


Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
56558 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:29 pm to
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James Lewis
needs his arse beat
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
764 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:36 pm to
Would people be ok with a cop checking if their house was unlocked, then taking a look around if it was?!
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19880 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:39 pm to
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Would people be ok with a cop checking if their house was unlocked, then taking a look around if it was?!


Maybe if there had been multiple burglaries in my neighborhood, and I wasn't home
I don't think the cop had a valid reason to go through this guy's vehicle, but it's also nowhere near as big of a deal as the car owner seems to be making out of it. Once I found out the reasoning, I'd wish he hadn't done that but I would then just go on with my life
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28111 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 4:45 pm to
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So if I go around the neighborhood checking door handles and opening the doors of cars that are unlocked there is nothing wrong with it if I claim I have no 'intent'?

These police officers sure do get creative to cover for their actions.
Well, intent has to matter. I have a real life example.

I live in a cookie-cutter subdivision where there are many houses in the subdivision that are the same as mine, with slight variations such as brick color, front door design, etc.

Well, two doors down there is a house that is the exact same design as mine except for a slightly darker and more varying brick and a slightly different shade of paint on the garage and trim.

My grandparents were visiting from out of town and my grandma went out for a walk one morning. As she was coming back up my street, she accidentally went into the house two doors down and walked all the way into the living room before she realized her mistake.

Should she have been charged with a crime? Or does intent matter?
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