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Missouri man wants cop charged for opening his car door while investigating car break-ins

Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:05 pm
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O'FALLON, Mo. (KMOV.com) -- An O'Fallon homeowner wants a police officer who was investigating thefts from unlocked cars to be charged with breaking and entering.



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James Lewis says he was getting ready for work on a snowy January morning when his Ring doorbell camera alerted him to someone on his property.

"At first I didn't know who it was. I was getting ready to come out and confront him. Then I saw the patch and knew it was a police officer," said Lewis.

Lewis's recording shows the officer walk across the grass to Lewis's car in his driveway, open the driver door, and look inside. The video glitches and in the next frame, the officer is gone.

Lewis says the officer did knock on his house door after checking his car, but Lewis says he didn't have time to answer that day.


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Now, the assistant police chief, Major John Neske, is explaining the officer’s actions and defending his work.

“We were called that morning for break-ins inside vehicles,” said Neske. “The thieves were checking handles on the doors. If it was open, they were rummaging through and stealing items and if it was locked, they went on to the next car. So they (officers) were walking, following print foots, checking the doors. If they opened, they took a quick peek in, shut the door. Or if it looked rummaged through, they tried to contact the home owner then to identify additional vehicles," Neske said.


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Lewis says he wants the officer charged with a crime.

"I would like to see a charge because that's technically breaking and entering. He went into my vehicle without a search warrant, without authorization. There is no evidence of a crime in my vehicle. I'm not wanted for nothing," said Lewis.


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Neske explained “breaking and entering” isn’t an offense. The closest thing would be burglary or trespassing, but in both cases, you would have to prove criminal intent.

“The officer did not commit a crime. There was no intent. The only intent of the officers that morning was to help the citizens of O’Fallon and catch somebody that was victimizing our citizens,” said Neske. “They decided to walk that neighborhood in zero degree temperatures to try to find additional victims. I applaud them.”




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Neighbors shared mixed reactions.

“I think it crosses a line. We all have our own rights and personal property and I would like for him to ask before going into my vehicle or into my home or anything,” said Ricky Schulte.

“I’m happy the officers are checking. They’re looking out for us, figuring out whose cars were broken into and first and foremost, I want to thank that officer,” said Brandon Franck, who was one of the victims of the thefts that night.


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Lewis says he hired an attorney and still wants to pursue charges.






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Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38534 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:08 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 12:47 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:12 pm to
I wonder what would have happened if the cop found a big bag of pot in his vehicle.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11676 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:12 pm to
frick that dude. I would love for karma to find this dude real soon.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:15 pm to
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He should be put on a "frick you, no answer" list at the police department.

Oh, someone is breaking into your house and you're being held at gunpoint? Too fricking bad.

Opening a car door to a vehicle and entering the vehicle when you have no warrant or probable cause that a crime is occurring in the vehicle should definitely be frowned upon.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Opening a car door to a vehicle and entering the vehicle when you have no warrant or probable cause that a crime is occurring in the vehicle should definitely be frowned upon.




Only a small government conservative would frown on that, which includes roughly 5% of this board.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21397 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:21 pm to
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He should be put on a "frick you, no answer" list at the police department.

Oh, someone is breaking into your house and you're being held at gunpoint? Too fricking bad.

How many cops have you blown irl?
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11431 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:22 pm to
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wonder what would have happened if the cop found a big bag of pot in his vehicle


This was my exact thought also, or maybe a murder victim?

None of it would be admissible.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:23 pm to
First, piss on that sniveling pussy. He should THANK the cop for being proactive.....

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I wonder what would have happened if the cop found a big bag of pot in his vehicle.


Now THIS is an excellent question....Speedy, you have the background for this, would there be any consequences if the above in quotes happened, since he opened the car without any "real" cause and had no warrant? I'm seriously not trolling, I'm just ignorant on the issue....
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21397 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:24 pm to
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First, piss on that sniveling pussy. He should THANK the cop for being proactive.....


Thank the cop for illegally entering his vehicle? Jesus christ, wtf is wrong with some of y'all?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28715 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:25 pm to
So a cop is out in the freezing arse cold searching for perps or stolen merch and this POS instead of inquiring 1st with the PD wants to just go ahead and sue or prosecute is what America has become. frick that guy!
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2402 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:28 pm to
He doesn't want them to find his weed.

Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:31 pm to
Would a regular citizen be charged? If so the cop should be as well. He shouldn't play by a different set of rules just because he has a badge.

A badge doesn't automatically make him a trustworthy or even a good person. I wouldn't want a cop checking my vehicle without permission/warrant either.
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:32 pm to

I'm not going to go into a diatribe but if anyone below me says this is AOK, you're a big gov Lib. No America Loving person would agree with this obvious 4A intrusion. No victim no crime.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21397 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

So a cop is out in the freezing arse cold searching for perps or stolen merch and this POS instead of inquiring 1st with the PD wants to just go ahead and sue or prosecute is what America has become. frick that guy!

Hint, he wasn't gonna find a perp or stolen merch in this guy's vehicle... and even if he did, it'd all be inadmissible. There was 0 benefit in what the cop did. It's pathetic so many of y'all are applauding this.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11676 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Thank the cop for illegally entering his vehicle?


He had a reason to. At some point you would be OK with this. What if he were looking for a missing child? What if someone broke your door down because your house was on fire and you didn't know it? Technically illegal..... Cop was just trying to see if he was a victim of a break in, Jesus.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61308 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Plain view doctrine.


That depends on the state and the contents of the vehicle.

Try taking guns out of a students car at LSU, for instance, and see what happens. SPOILER: it didn't go like LSU thought it would.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:36 pm to

What if what if!
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Neske explained “breaking and entering” isn’t an offense. The closest thing would be burglary or trespassing, but in both cases, you would have to prove criminal intent.


So if I go around the neighborhood checking door handles and opening the doors of cars that are unlocked there is nothing wrong with it if I claim I have no 'intent'?

These police officers sure do get creative to cover for their actions.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11676 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Would a regular citizen be charged? If so the cop should be as well. He shouldn't play by a different set of rules just because he has a badge.


No a regular should NOT be charged under the exact same circumstances. If a neighbor did this to me and I realized why he did that, I absolutely WOULD NOT press charges on him. Of course, I'm not a large type arse hole like the guy in article.
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