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re: Mississippi cotton farmer in 1968
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:16 pm to Dee_oh_Dee
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:16 pm to Dee_oh_Dee
I’m pretty sure if he was racist he wouldn’t give black people guns. There’s a clip at the end of him with some white and black kids shooting guns.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:25 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Yeah, especially the one where the guy said "my mom & dad worked hard all day & I dont want that for me and my kids"
He was saying he didn't want them to work that hard and not work THEIR land. I wouldn't want to either if I didn't see anything changing.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:28 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:43 pm to Dixie Normas
They also don't point out that white sharecroppers were very little better off than black sharecroppers
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:30 pm to The Boat
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I’m pretty sure if he was racist he wouldn’t give black people guns. There’s a clip at the end of him with some white and black kids shooting guns.
The dynamic of that era of plantation life is really interesting.
The black sharecropper was really loyal to the farm, but also the high majority really had nowhere to go and owed money to the plantation.
The Humphrey McGee types also were loyal to good sharecroppers and saw those people as extended family.
While they didn’t go to church together and what not, as they died off the black families would still invite the plantation owners to the funeral to sit with the black family, and vice versa to a lesser extent.
White children of that time also basically had two mothers. They had their parents obviously, but there’d also be a sharecroppers wife that would tend the house, cook, etc. The plantation owners children that were raised on the farm consider themselves “raised” by these black ladies.
Lot of moving parts in those relationships.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:38 pm to prostyleoffensetime
The South was Right
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:38 pm to prostyleoffensetime
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The dynamic of that era of plantation life is really interesting.
It really was—you may be able to catch a shadow or glimpse of it in some deep parts of the South, but it’s all but gone.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:49 pm to Geopardee
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It really was—you may be able to catch a shadow or glimpse of it in some deep parts of the South, but it’s all but gone.
It’s still around here and there. I manage one of these farms that’s been in the same family for 100 years.
We employ H2A workers now, but a lot of the older blacks around still come visit and there’s a mutual respect between them and my boss tied to the land. They really do see each other differently than they see others.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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it’s absolute bullshite that they say to him “oh you must be from northern Alabama
I thought his post was “Alabama or Mississippi”?
Yep, I checked. He never claimed they identified it as “Northern Alabama”. You made that up. Why?
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:59 pm to prostyleoffensetime
I’m fourth generation farmer in Sharkey County. I’m pretty sure that was Panther Burn Plantation in the film.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:32 pm to Dee_oh_Dee
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My grandfather was born in 1894. He passed when I was 10 yo. Every male in his generation called every male under 40 "boy".
The dividing line in my family was 1925. Male relatives born before were all in. The last time I was called "boy" was when I was 35 by an 80 yo second cousin born in 1923.
F off with your nonsense.
Heck, I'm 32 and remember hearing it a lot in my childhood. My dad commonly referred to his coworkers as "the boys at work".
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:34 pm to LordSaintly
mine as well
The government is tracking us
The government is tracking us
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:42 pm to prostyleoffensetime
They are mostly gone but there are still a few around who grew up with that dynamic. My father and the older half of his siblings were raised in a similar fashion. The farmer in video reminds me of my granny, that distinct MS, old southern accent. Not redneck, but old south.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 7:34 am
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:51 pm to TigersHuskers
Look up black slave owners back in the south during the civil war or after.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:05 pm to VernonPLSUfan
One of the largest slave owners in LA was a free black family in St. James parish. Louisiana and South Carolina had the largest populations of slave owning free people of color.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:11 pm to TigersHuskers
My grandad was a sharecropper. He, along with his four kids, worked and saved enough to buy 15 acres which he farmed for himself while he continued to work on another man's farm. All of his kids, three boys and one girl, worked either chopping or picking their own cotton or someone else's. My Pops came out of the fields in 1969 making three dollars a day. He hired into a plant making right at three dollars an hour.
They all planted, chopped, picked, hauled cotton. They sometimes worked at the gin. They got out of school every Fall for a couple of weeks to pick cotton. All of the kids and my grandmother worked on the farm(s). They are white people who worked alongside black people doing the same jobs for the same pay. They were all just farmhands.
My grandfather on my mother's side primarily worked as a mechanic on a farm. He was dyslexic, couldn't read much at all, and could only write very little. Yet, he could fix anything with a motor. He, my grandmother, and their five kids lived in a house on the farm, rent and utilities paid for by the farm. His kids, my mother included when she couldn't get out of it, also worked on the farm.
They were all just poor white sharecroppers and farmhands in Alabama, living and working with mostly other poor people, white and black, just trying to get by.
They all planted, chopped, picked, hauled cotton. They sometimes worked at the gin. They got out of school every Fall for a couple of weeks to pick cotton. All of the kids and my grandmother worked on the farm(s). They are white people who worked alongside black people doing the same jobs for the same pay. They were all just farmhands.
My grandfather on my mother's side primarily worked as a mechanic on a farm. He was dyslexic, couldn't read much at all, and could only write very little. Yet, he could fix anything with a motor. He, my grandmother, and their five kids lived in a house on the farm, rent and utilities paid for by the farm. His kids, my mother included when she couldn't get out of it, also worked on the farm.
They were all just poor white sharecroppers and farmhands in Alabama, living and working with mostly other poor people, white and black, just trying to get by.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:19 pm to TigersHuskers
Got this in my feed too some days ago probably because I watch Hoffman videos a lot but it gave me some time to go through the comments and read a lot of talking out the arse.. I grew up in the Mississippi Delta and 50+ it was a harmonious hard life for blacks and whites. And to who said we were all boys back then is 100% true.
ETA In fact it went all the way into the '80s if I remember right, certainly the early 80s
ETA In fact it went all the way into the '80s if I remember right, certainly the early 80s
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:32 am to UptownJoeBrown
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So fatigued. Don’t give a shite. Crap was over 50 years ago. 50 years of handouts and help up. Culture still stuck in the gutter and hasn’t risen an inch.
The problem arose around the same time as this video. Like the farmer said, machines were replacing workers and he went from 85 to 15 families being supported by his operation. Well the 1960s was when LBJ passed the great society welfare programs. So those 70 families instead of migrating elsewhere to find new jobs stayed here and probably got on welfare and worked occasional part time or seasonal jobs and thus started the slow decline into dependency and laziness which then breeds crime and misconduct and broken homes. Some black families at the time did migrate to the industrial cities like Detroit to work in the manufacturing plants for the auto industry and other rust belt industries. Then our govt enacted more self destructive policies leading to manufacturing outsourcing overseas destroying those jobs.
We have enacted so much self destructive policy over the decades in this country that the modern economy no longer supports having a large group of working class uneducated people whether it’s poor rural or inner city blacks or white hillbillies in Appalachia. Then add on top of it the jobs that do still exist that should be available to these people have been given to illegal immigrants willing to work for less.
That’s a large reason Trump was elected. A huge portion of Americans have been forgotten and left behind and want their opportunities back. They want the mines reopened, they want manufacturing brought back, they want the cattle ranches, the aquaculture farms and processors, the gulf shrimpers, the east coast fishermen, we want to bring it all back because it all once brought good jobs and stability to many blue collar families and we have destroyed it in favor of foreign products or multinational corporations that control all of it.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:58 am to prostyleoffensetime
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Lot of moving parts in those relationships.
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