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re: Missing young girls from Loranger. Mother murdered.

Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:05 pm to
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I am against the death penalty. It costs more than keeping someone in jail for life



You know, I hear this argument all the time. What if they live to be NINETY?

How good are we at predicting costs for things like medical care, dental care, food, etc. for the next 40-50 years? Because we seem to have been really shitty at it when it comes to the price of automobiles.

I'm sorry- but I do not buy this. It is way past time to DISALLOW monetizing these monstrous BASTARDS through a lousy appeals process.

We live in the age of DNA. Let's stop referring to these assholes as "the accused" when we know beyond the shadow of any doubt THAT THEY DID IT.

Here's a fact: Once they are gone, so are all of the costs that come with them. Make it f**king happen.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:09 pm to
I’m torn whether this dude should get life or the death penalty.

1. He deserves to die the exact same way he killed that little girl.

But

2. He would get the shite beat out of him on a daily basis if he got life and was put in General Population.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5247 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:10 pm to
Well the death penalty takes years so you could get both of your wishes.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:13 pm to
Good, the best of both worlds.

I really don’t understand how he was able to walk into the Police Station. He should have had a few “accidents” while they were pursuing him. Drag his arse out of the woods with a broken leg and busted up face.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5313 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:16 pm to
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You know, I hear this argument all the time. What if they live to be NINETY? How good are we at predicting costs for things like medical care, dental care, food, etc. for the next 40-50 years? Because we seem to have been really shitty at it when it comes to the price of automobiles. I'm sorry- but I do not buy this. It is way past time to DISALLOW monetizing these monstrous BASTARDS through a lousy appeals process. We live in the age of DNA. Let's stop referring to these assholes as "the accused" when we know beyond the shadow of any doubt THAT THEY DID IT. Here's a fact: Once they are gone, so are all of the costs that come with them. Make it f**king happen.



What an emotional response.. Are you a woman ?



Here are some facts using, ya know, LOGIC.. I’m against the death penalty b/c 1) as previously mentioned , it costs like 10 x more to sentence someone to death than to just throw them under the jail forever.. Why ? Because when you are playing god, you have to exhaust every appeal and every avenue legally before taking their life .. 2) there have been DOZENS of people put to death over the last 50 yrs who were later found to be innocent .. if that number were only ONE, it should be enough to do away with the DP because it is permanent .. no I don’t have a link, do your own research, you lazy arse…. 3) the death penalty is NOT a deterrent .. if the DP were a deterrent, then why would these subhumans still be committing murderous acts like this ? Take the emotion of out it, for chrissakes, you fuggin pansy asses .
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I'm sorry- but I do not buy this. It is way past time to DISALLOW monetizing these monstrous BASTARDS through a lousy appeals process. We live in the age of DNA. Let's stop referring to these assholes as "the accused" when we know beyond the shadow of any doubt THAT THEY DID IT.



Elsewhere in legal news, basketball player Terrance Shannon got drug through the mud for 10 months because a whore and an activist DA decided to push one of the more ridiculous rape charges we’ve seen through the legal system.

Who the frick knows what would have happened if this kid was a random dude instead of someone at least marginally noteworthy and able to obtain decent legal representation.

The point is that while these frickers deserve to be strung from a tree by their scrotum, the system for doling that punishment out is too easily corruptible by power hungry activists with an agenda, even in the era of DNA.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11622 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:22 pm to
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2. He would get the shite beat out of him on a daily basis if he got life and was put in General Population.


Does this happen as much as we think it does? It’s a comforting thought, but it’s not something we hear about actually happening frequently. I don’t have an “in” with DOC/prisoners to know.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Does this happen as much as we think it does? It’s a comforting thought, but it’s not something we hear about actually happening frequently. I don’t have an “in” with DOC/prisoners to know.


When I was in the Army I knew someone that was stationed at the Prison at Fort Leavenworth. She worked in HR. She said the two groups of people that had it the worst there were ex law enforcement and anyone that hurt a kid.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2402 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:25 pm to
They need to hang him by his ankles and let the town beat him like a fricking piñata.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73675 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:28 pm to
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I am against the death penalty. It costs more than keeping someone in jail for life, and I don't think a society can do anything worse than killing an innocent person, and we've done that many times.


Why can't there be certain circumstances for the death penalty that include 100% for sure they did it? I mean there are situations with no doubt whatsoever. Especially on video or being caught in the actual act itself? Some of these school and mass murderers for one. Even if against the DP, because of the idea of innocent people, I still feel like certain circumstances could warrant it.

Also, about the DP being more expensive. I assume it's about the extra cost of litigation and appeals? I am interested to know if there can be similar appeals without the DP that do end up costing more than a DP case. I just have some skepticism at times here.

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I also don't like the idea of a child killer like this getting his own death row cell for decades and then having a relatively peaceful out that he has mentally prepared himself for for years. I want a child killer to live every night thinking his cellmate could kill him. I want a child killer in terror every moment of his life until he dies a very, very painful death at the hands of another psychopath.


I think it's wrong they get to live. Just seems wrong to me, but that's my opinion. I don't believe in the idea of well it's much worse to get life than DP. Often times these people aren't even affected by it and they get pretty decent treatment.
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7561 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I’m torn whether this dude should get life or the death penalty.

1. He deserves to die the exact same way he killed that little girl.

But

2. He would get the shite beat out of him on a daily basis if he got life and was put in General Population.


Nah - this guy deserves to die a very slow, very painful death. Someone needs to get medieval on his arse.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14776 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

What an emotional response.. Are you a woman ?


No. But I do believe you may have wet yourself with your emotional response.


quote:

the death penalty is NOT a deterrent .. if the DP were a deterrent, then why would these subhumans still be committing murderous acts like this ? Take the emotion of out it, for chrissakes, you fuggin pansy asses .


Yes it is. No one who has ever been through it has ever harmed anyone else again. That is the epitome of "being deterred."


Some people are simply rotten as hell. Evil. There is one one way to guarantee they'll never harm another human being.

You may cherish the idea of them getting to live out their natural lives after committing vile, evil acts such as this; I disagree. If in your eyes that makes me a bad person, tough shite.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38436 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Why can't there be certain circumstances for the death penalty that include 100% for sure they did it? I mean there are situations with no doubt whatsoever. Especially on video or being caught in the actual act itself? Some of these school and mass murderers for one. Even if against the DP, because of the idea of innocent people, I still feel like certain circumstances could warrant it.


I’d be for a blanket change to life without parole for current death row inmates if we mandated the death penalty be carried out within 24 hours, in public, broadcast live, for the specific cases where it is 100% without a shadow of a doubt the convicted from here on out.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 12:56 pm to
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What am I missing ?


quote:

BE SPECIFIC .


A relationship with God?

The understanding that we are all sinners and worthy of death, but were graciously afforded the choice of eternal life in Heaven through belief in Jesus and repentance?

The understanding that whether atheist, agnostic, Christian, etc., there are hundreds to thousands of things we all use faith and belief to process and justify things every day that can't be logically explained or proven?

This is the wrong thread for this discussion. Just know that no matter how wretched and broken you are, belief in Jesus is the first step on the path to salvation.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11538 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:00 pm to
The ugly tats were a given
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1832 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:00 pm to
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SFP. Always the contrarian and the smartest guy in the room. I hope he's not married


People that actually are the smartest people in the room aren't so insecure that they post about it constantly on TD, of all places.

I hope he is married (without kids), and she spends all the time he's at work and posting on TD banging various Jodies and obliterating the 10 figures a year salary that his vast intellect surely brings in.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:01 pm to
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Does this happen as much as we think it does? It’s a comforting thought, but it’s not something we hear about actually happening frequently. I don’t have an “in” with DOC/prisoners to know.


I did a two year clinical rotation for medical school between Louisiana's two biggest and baddest state facilities. Here's what I can tell you:

• His life is going to suck but he will not get beat up everyday.
• Guards will turn a blind eye quite often.
• Every piece of food he puts in his mouth will contain urine, feces, semen, pubic hair, toe nails, wound scabs, etc. I've seen the kitchen put shaved chicken bones, razorblades, shards of metal, etc., in the food.
• Guys will try to get on work details with him at some point. He will become alot of people's trick. If he learns to suck a dick he can stay alive for a long time.
• He will likely spend A TON of time in solitary or on suicide watch. Solitary will break this cat. He isn't built that way. If he pulls the suicidal shite they will 4-point strap him to a hospital bed in a paper gown in a room that stays cold with the lights on in 72-hour increments


It will be very hard on him. Worse than death. I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead within 5 years.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29857 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Sounds like he killed the mom with the intent to kidnap and sell her kids.


I personally find this scenario hard to believe. I guess it's plausible, but that's just not a way that people, especially kids, end up in trafficking situations. The mom and kids had people that cared for them. The mom and kids were visible in society, whereas human trafficking victims typically come from the invisible parts of society. It's much easier to traffic someone now one cares about.

That said, this monster doesn't look like the smartest guy in the world, so who knows. All I know is he needs to be gone from this world, and sooner rather than later.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:07 pm to
Someone will castrate him.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105251 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:13 pm to
Yeah I can believe it was some meth fueled scheme on this guy's part. He doesn't strike me as having the organizational skills or executive functioning to have an actual coherent plan. He probably wasn't ever thinking more than five minutes ahead at any point.
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