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re: Missing North Carolina teacher was killed in Mexico, governor says

Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:45 am to
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53881 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:45 am to
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Andrew, 34, from Davidson, disappeared October 28 after leaving his hotel in Urique


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writing in Spanish, said that Braxton-Andrew crossed paths with a drug dealer from the Sinaloa cartel and was killed


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Patrick died doing what he loved — traveling and meeting people


This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134625 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:49 am to
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Patrick died doing what he loved —


Cocaine
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:54 am to
Dude should have studied up on Mark Kilroy
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:02 am to
Mexico is a third world country. Why would anybody feel safe by going on a solo walk in a rural area.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:03 am to
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I never been that deep into Mexico. Should I worry or am I just being a pussy?


In 2016, you were 21 times more likely to be murdered in the US than you were while traveling to Mexiso. The safest state in the US still had a murder rate 4x higher than US citizens traveling to Mexico.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7872 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 10:31 am to
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The bus story

Just read the Wikipedia article on that. Pretty fricked up.

Holy fricking shite!!


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Alleged survivor's story[edit]
El Informador newspaper published a story of an alleged survivor of the massacres in San Fernando; below is the translated story of incidents involving the kidnappings and the killings done by Los Zetas:
A transportation bus of the company Autobuses de Oriente made its obligatory stop at San Fernando, Tamaulipas before reaching its destination in Reynosa.[72] At the terminal, two people got off the bus, and a couple of others got on board, making a total of 15 passengers. The bus then left the terminal at around 8:30 p.m. on 25 March 2011 as quickly as possible, fearing that they may be victims of the cartels that operated in the city.[72]
While the bus was leaving San Fernando, the bus driver saw at a distance that there were several trucks blocking the highway up ahead, and that there were several men wearing ski-masks and holding AR-15s. The gunmen ordered the bus to stop, and the bus driver obeyed. The cartel members approached the bus pointing their guns and yelling, "Open the door, a-hole! Move, you son of a bitch, unless you want me to shoot you dead."[72] The chauffeur, trembling, opened the door for the gunmen, who quickly stormed the bus as soon as the door was opened. "You are all fricked," yelled one of the gunmen to the people on board; the passengers were frightened, and some of them cried, thinking it was simply a regular armed robbery. But that was not the case this time. The cartel members then ordered the bus driver to drive the bus deep into a dirt road for about ten kilometers before reaching a plain area, "in the middle of nowhere." In the area there were about twenty luxurious trucks and three passenger buses, some of them with bullet holes, flat tires, and broken windows.[72] The driver was then ordered to stop the bus, and all the men were then told to descend from the vehicle. They were asked to form a line, and the cartel members began to organize them from youngest to oldest and from strongest to weakest. Those who looked old or weak were separated from the group, tied from their feet, and then taken elsewhere.[72] Those who were left were ordered to take off their shirts and remain where they were. A man wearing black military uniform, a bulletproof vest, and a kit belt was called from the trucks that were parked nearby. All of the triggermen referred to him as Commander 40, better known as Miguel Treviño Morales, one of the top leaders of Los Zetas. The man approached the passengers that were lined up in front of him, and said in an energetic voice: "Let's see, assholes. Who wants to live?" But no one answered. One teenager accidentally wet himself out of nervousness, and Commander 40 killed him with a shot to the head.[72] Treviño Morales then yelled: "I will ask all of you one more time. Who the frick wants to live?" All of the men raised their hands. "Good. We will test your abilities to see how capable you are. If you make it, you'll survive; if you do not, you're fricked." Commander 40 then asked his henchmen to bring the bats and clubs, and each of the passengers was given one. He then said, "Look, each of you will get in pairs and beat the shite out of each other.[72] Those who survive will work for Los Zetas, those who don't, well, they're fricked." All of the passengers were shocked at the order the individual in front of them gave them. Everyone got their bats and clubs, joined up as a pair, and stared at their partners nervously. Treviño Morales then said: "Now beat the shite out of each other."[72]
One of the passengers of the bus approached Treviño Morales weeping and saying: "Please, sir. I do not want to do this. I will give you all the money I have and my own house, but please let us go."[73] Treviño Morales stared at him firmly, took away his club and then said, "Okay, stupid a-hole. Leave," and while the crying man was walking away, Treviño Morales swung his bat and hit him in the back of the head—and then struck him more than 20 times until his head was completely destroyed.[73] He then turned around and said to the kidnapped victims: "This is what you have to do. Have some balls (courage). Anyone who does not want to can tell me and I will beat the hell out of you."[73] All of the men started fighting. Several other Zeta members, who were still on a bus with other passengers, ordered the women whom they considered the most beautiful to descend the vehicle so they could rape them.[73] Then they took away the children from their mothers, and shot the rest of the bus passengers. The women were taken to a warehouse where many other women were held captive. Inside a dark room, the women were reportedly raped and beaten, while one heard the screams of the women and of the children being put in acid.[73] A driver of one of the buses was then asked to turn on the bus engine, and then ordered to move the bus to where the kidnapped victims were handcuffed and laid down on the dirt floor. "Drive on top of them," one of the killers told the bus driver, who stood there motionless. "Drive on top of them or I will put you there too, a-hole," the killer repeated.[73] As the driver rode over his passengers with the bus, he felt like the vehicle was passing over speed bumps, but the only difference was that the bus driver and the passengers could actually hear the cries of the people as they were being run over. The gunmen, once the driver was finished, shot him in the head and shot the rest on board. The bus was then set on fire by the Zetas.[73] Treviño Morales then gathered all the Zetas and said, "We have had enough fun for tonight. Bring the winners."[73] His men brought all of those who had passed the gladiator-like competitions, and they were gathered in front of Treviño Morales.
Commander 40 then said to everyone, "Welcome to Los Zetas special forces, the 'other' military."[73]


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Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42075 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:06 am to
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.....can anyone prove me wrong?


Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam

Shitholes gonna shithole
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:16 am to
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So he was out for a stroll in Mexico and just happened to cross paths with a drug dealer who decided to murder him?

No red flags there
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:21 am to
Vacationing in that part of Mexico is about as smart as taking a deluxe vacation to the korengal in Afghanistan. It sucks he got murdered, but he was basically asking for it.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96931 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:37 am to
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Should I worry or am I just being a pussy?




Depends. How much life insurance do you have?

I travel to Guadalajara as well for work and it's not bad. Just don't go for a stroll by yourself nor wear flashy watches and draw attention to yourself.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7848 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:46 am to
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I never been that deep into Mexico. Should I worry or am I just being a pussy?


I don’t want to support a narco state, even if it is probably safe for me. Reading that account of the bus that someone posted reaffirms that. I’ll give my tourism dollars elsewhere.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80837 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:49 am to
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We really should invade that shithole burn it down,fix it up and flip it to a nicer country and walk away with a profit..


Let the Democrats have their open border.

When the last Mexican comes across, move into the now-vacant country and set up shop.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14786 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 11:53 am to
So I wonder what happened????


So we started to dance
In my arms, she felt so inviting
And I just couldn't resist
Just one little kiss, so exciting

Then I heard the guitar player say
"Vamos, Jose's on his way"
Then I knew, yes I knew I should run
But then I heard her say, yeah

"Come a little bit closer
You're my kind of man
So big and so strong
Come a little bit closer
I'm all alone and the night is so long"

Then the music stopped
When I looked the cafe was empty
Then I heard Jose say
"Man, you know you're in trouble plenty...."
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:01 pm to
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In 2016, you were 21 times more likely to be murdered in the US than you were while traveling to Mexiso. The safest state in the US still had a murder rate 4x higher than US citizens traveling to Mexico.


Yeah I don't believe that at all, wanna link it? My guess is its something like the safest state had 4x as many Americans murdered in the year as did Mexico. Well no shite, because you have don't have 4 million Americans in Mexico traveling daily.

Its simply skewed statistics to fabricate a point of view.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80837 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Yeah I don't believe that at all, wanna link it? My guess is its something like the safest state had 4x as many Americans murdered in the year as did Mexico. Well no shite, because you have don't have 4 million Americans in Mexico traveling daily.



It's a rate. It takes into account that there are fewer Americans in Mexico.

What makes it misleading is most murders are targeted. Gang members, domestic, etc. If you want to compare apples to apples you would count only US murders where the victim didn't know the killer.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15648 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:07 pm to
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He was supposedly an avid hiker and outdoorsman. He went missing on a solo hike. Probably stumbled upon something he wasn't supposed to see.


Reminds me of the location scout for Narcos that was killed. He was scouting for scenes in a remote area, and the theory is he stumbled upon cartel activity.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14786 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:09 pm to
Will we ever see a day when they are considered to be a terror organization worthy of the same treatment?
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59235 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Reminds me of the location scout for Narcos that was killed. He was scouting for scenes in a remote area, and the theory is he stumbled upon cartel activity.

Damn, that sucks.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182290 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:17 pm to
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I am with you 100%. I can't believe this comment got several down votes. Mexico is a shithole to the highest degree.



I might move there next year. Seriously.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11686 posts
Posted on 11/19/18 at 12:24 pm to
How do these drug deals wind up going so badly? It was always simple when I did them. I give you drugs, you give me a blowjob, and that was the end of it.
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