re: Miracle weight loss shots hyped by Hollywood linked to deadly bowel obstructions

Lol. Unless this person asks or seems interested in learning, I’m not doing that in mixed company. I’m also not the friend that butts in and lets them know how my ways are far superior to theirs. They probably realize that but are looking for every avenue but the one I’m on.

They’ve traveled with me and know what it looks like to choose healthy on the menu, to squeeze in a little workout in a daily routine. They know because they comment on it and say “I just wish I had your discipline” while making little jokes about my routine and what I order. I have helped several friends when they genuinely want it. I set their macros, send them tons of recipes and examples of meal schedules, what to order at certain restaurants to stay on track, workouts to do based on what they’ve got access to.

But I’ve learned my lesson inserting myself like this with my real life friends. Probably similar to doctors trying to tell their patients, they don’t want to hear it and say my life is extreme when in reality, it’s not at all. It’s just got a shred of discipline and that’s the reality of what they’re avoiding. Discipline, accountability and consistency.

Honestly, its never been easier to get fit with the access to healthy recipes, online workout videos; etc.

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But if it helps fat people lose weight that has so many benefits on our entire healthcare system.
But if it doesn't help them learn how to be healthy they'll likely rebound once they stop taking it, negating those benefits.

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Definitely for some, although i wouldnt put that as a blanket statement for all.

For others, the increase in energy and overall health and well being may be the trigger they need to start living a cleaner life.

My relative is an example of someone who probably needs it. She’s eating herself into a grave and the more she gains, the worse she’s getting with every imaginable disease and ailment. She’s completely discouraged and losing about 50 lbs would allow her the ability to move around more and likely be encouraged to continue her progress. But there is a severe psychological issue going on for her to have allowed herself to gain 150+ lbs in a decade, most of which has been the last 4-5 years. THAT has to be addressed or it’s all for nothing. I would like to see her simply get some weight off so that she has a chance to address the real systemic psych issues. I think she’s down a serious dark hole and sees no way out right now.

THAT is who this medicine should be reserved for (if for weight loss and not diabetics).

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Definitely for some, although i wouldnt put that as a blanket statement for all.

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Well, these types of discussions are usually based on generalities

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For others, the increase in energy and overall health and well being may be the trigger they need to start living a cleaner life.

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Agree. I think it can be absolutely beneficial if part of a multi-pronged approach to weight loss with an emphasis on instilling new habits and attitudes toward healthy lifestyle choices.

The cynic in me thinks most people are just taking the shot and calling it a day though.

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I’d say two healthy, in-shape, neighbors standing around going on “glorious” rants about fat people could come off as a little insecure.

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is it?

would a couple of neighbors who live in a nice neighborhood be "insecure" if they went on rants about their trashy neighbor who has cars in the yard and painted the house pink? i know it's not nice to say, but fat people are a legit eyesore. you can't look anywhere in public without seeing rolls of fat. it's disgusting and unfair to the rest of us.

just FWIW, the "insecure" part was strictly concerning people using the drugs to lose vanity weight

Dang you fat

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I’d say two healthy, in-shape, neighbors standing around going on “glorious” rants about fat people could come off as a little insecure.

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I always feel bad for the skinny dudes running around in their under armor. They gotta wear warm up clothes when it gets less than 70 degrees because they’re anemic and don’t have the natural protective layer that God meant us to have. They’d be be back at the cave picking berries while us big baws were out hunting mammoth

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The OT: "I'll never take an experimental rushed death shot!" Also the OT: "Miracle weight loss and i can still go to Golden Corral?! Right here doc!"

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Well to be fair, at least this drug seems to actually help with people get a desired outcome so it could be worth the risk.

Also last I checked the govt isn’t requiring fat people to take this.