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re: Minnesota - Vehicle Forfeiture in DUI Cases

Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:11 pm to
Uber and Lyft has definitely reduced dwi arrests and deaths. Taking someone’s property from them, maybe in the short term. But it does nothing to address the issues people with multiple DUIs experience. Only exacerbates them and makes it harder to seek treatment
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74911 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:20 pm to
No man
Police can take stuff say it was used in a crime and then you have to prove it wasn't.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:21 pm to
Cops: Hey I think we should win a person's car if we catch them drinking and driving. For public safety.

Legislators: what's in it for us?

Cops: a cut of the action.

Legislators: we can't receive it directly however you can give it to our law brethren in the Judicial sytem and DA's offices.

Cops: okay how about 25%?

Judges and DAs: lol

Cops
: okay we'll split it 50/50

Everyone:
deal!
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:53 pm to
What did I mischaracterize? You could blow .09 twice in 10 years (still trashy) for not signaling a lane change, and lose a $20k investment on top of paying another $10k in legal fines and attorney fees. And the police have a great incentive to do just that..
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:01 pm to
Sounds like I should buy my next car from an auction in Minnesota.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:04 pm to
Whats with all the dui topics today?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74911 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:43 pm to
There was one. The rest were spinoffs.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:07 am to
Lol at You thinking the cops are anything more than revenue generators. Protect and serve? Lulz
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41938 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:21 am to
I'm gonna need to see a link for that.

If it is true, though, anyone and everyone who was involved in the passage of that law needs to be gathered up and hanged as traitors.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41938 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:43 am to
quote:

There is more to the story then this. They don’t go around seizing DUI vehicles. Yes the will suspend your license, impound the vehicle and take your license plate. But not your vehicle.
They seize the vehicle if it is involved in theft, burglary, drugs, etc. if it can be determined it was purchased with illegal money.




Everything you posted is exactly the opposite of what the law states.

frick this law, and frick any cop that uses it.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41938 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:45 am to
quote:

I may could get on board with this if the funds were used more uniformly, such as road improvements or education.


No, you couldn't. Because even if those funds were said to be dedicated to road improvements or education, they'd be earmarked for some stupid bullshite.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41986 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:01 am to
Being an officer was once a very honorable and noble profession. Not as much anymore.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64072 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:40 am to
Well, the offending party did commit a crime. This is not like other cases where the jurisdiction kept a person's possessions where no crime was committed. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but don't act like the government is "stealing" somebody's stuff in this case.

Louisiana does this in some illegal hunting and fishing cases.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:42 am to
quote:

Gov. Mark Dayton signed a bill into law Monday protecting an innocent vehicle owner when someone else uses it without permission or knowledge.


So if your drunk buddy with a history of driving drunk uses your car to make a beer run, you risk losing your car.

I don't have much of a problem with that.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64072 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:44 am to
quote:

So if your drunk buddy with a history of driving drunk uses your car to make a beer run, you risk losing your car.

I don't have much of a problem with that.



This.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:58 am to
if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide.....
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35695 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:55 am to
quote:


Not only that, say you are financing the car. You still have to pay for it even though the police stole it.



I know of someone that loaned a vehicle to a friend who committed federal wildlife violations from said vehicle on federal property.

the vehicle was siezed and forfeited and the owner was still responsible for paying off loan
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141254 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:22 am to
I say good job Minnesota and should be adopted by all states.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74911 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:30 am to
It's theft. The ONLY time I think civil forfeiture should be used is our the vehicle was purchased with illegally gained funds. Like a drug dealer, bank theif, etc.

No one should lose a vehicle over a misdemeanor.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74911 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:30 am to
Nice troll 9.5/10

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