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Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:54 am to SuperSaint
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SuperSaint
thanks for your input boomer. I can guarantee you can read up on this and get enlightened.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:57 am to alexahet
quote:I need a girl to soften me up, but god help me if I have a 3rd hardheaded heathen boy
I am maxed out at 2, they're too much goddamn work.

Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:59 am to fareplay
I did most everything right. I got a scholarship and graduated both law school and undergrad debt free. I watched everyone around me spend their teens and 20’s partying, f$&king, traveling and just having a good time while I worked and went to school. I avoided heavy drinking, drugs, unprotected sex, and even caffeine. I live a frugal lifestyle where I cook the overwhelming majority of my own meals, drive hand-me-down cars until the wheels fall off, only pay for one streaming service, never go to the movies, and was fortunate enough for my parents to help me put the down payment on the house I was renting when my landlord decided to sell. I was able to snatch up a dated fixer-upper in a safe neighborhood for well-under market value locking in a low interest 25 year mortgage.
Yet, despite making more now than I did 3 years ago when I bought the house, my quality of life has collapsed. I went from being an up and coming young professional with enough disposable income to save for retirement, never carry a credit card balance for more than a month, eat out frequently, vacation modestly twice a year, and afford most of the things that I wanted (video games, music equipment, etc) to now someone who barely survives and has zero disposable income.
I don’t go out to eat more than once or twice a month now because I cannot afford it. My meals are cooked in bulk, and usually consist of rice and beans or the cheapest available deli meats and breads. I no longer drink regularly because I can’t afford to. While I used to maintain a fully stocked bar with guest liquors for my friends, my liquor cabinet is effectively dry because I cannot afford to restock it.
Despite cutting discretionary spending down to less than ever, I still find myself drowning in debt. I am buying less food, spending less on concert tickets, haven’t bought a single guitar pedal or accessory in over a year, no more video games, completely cut out any hobbies that cost money, etc. I have had to cut therapy, gym memberships, and lawn services for financial reasons. If I can’t fix a problem at my house, it doesn’t get fixed because I can no longer afford to pay people to fix anything else.
Not only am I barely scrapping by to afford basic necessities, but my debt doesn’t seem to be getting under control. Inflation has hit hardest the things which I buy most frequently. Food feels like it’s doubled or tripled in price, and Insurance is through the roof. Even cheap beer is up 40%.
I don’t see a way out of this. I was struggling emotionally and professionally outside of the economic problems, and now it seems like no matter what, I can’t even get back the modest lifestyle I had before. I have only gone economically backwards since 2015. My spending habits have gotten tighter, my life style has massively declined, and yet I went from comfortably paying my bills and saving to only scraping by while my debts seem impossible to keep covering.
There’s barely anything keeping me going. I have no kids, nor will I ever be able to even if I could afford to, which also seems impossible. I feel utterly broken, without purpose or hope for a future that is anything except a continual slide into poverty while I uphold every rule that was given to me to be successful to the goddamn letter. If I can’t make it, I don’t see how anyone can.
Yet, despite making more now than I did 3 years ago when I bought the house, my quality of life has collapsed. I went from being an up and coming young professional with enough disposable income to save for retirement, never carry a credit card balance for more than a month, eat out frequently, vacation modestly twice a year, and afford most of the things that I wanted (video games, music equipment, etc) to now someone who barely survives and has zero disposable income.
I don’t go out to eat more than once or twice a month now because I cannot afford it. My meals are cooked in bulk, and usually consist of rice and beans or the cheapest available deli meats and breads. I no longer drink regularly because I can’t afford to. While I used to maintain a fully stocked bar with guest liquors for my friends, my liquor cabinet is effectively dry because I cannot afford to restock it.
Despite cutting discretionary spending down to less than ever, I still find myself drowning in debt. I am buying less food, spending less on concert tickets, haven’t bought a single guitar pedal or accessory in over a year, no more video games, completely cut out any hobbies that cost money, etc. I have had to cut therapy, gym memberships, and lawn services for financial reasons. If I can’t fix a problem at my house, it doesn’t get fixed because I can no longer afford to pay people to fix anything else.
Not only am I barely scrapping by to afford basic necessities, but my debt doesn’t seem to be getting under control. Inflation has hit hardest the things which I buy most frequently. Food feels like it’s doubled or tripled in price, and Insurance is through the roof. Even cheap beer is up 40%.
I don’t see a way out of this. I was struggling emotionally and professionally outside of the economic problems, and now it seems like no matter what, I can’t even get back the modest lifestyle I had before. I have only gone economically backwards since 2015. My spending habits have gotten tighter, my life style has massively declined, and yet I went from comfortably paying my bills and saving to only scraping by while my debts seem impossible to keep covering.
There’s barely anything keeping me going. I have no kids, nor will I ever be able to even if I could afford to, which also seems impossible. I feel utterly broken, without purpose or hope for a future that is anything except a continual slide into poverty while I uphold every rule that was given to me to be successful to the goddamn letter. If I can’t make it, I don’t see how anyone can.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:01 am to RefineryRich
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It has nothing to do with what i make
I'm not calling you out specifically, using that word in the general sense.
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its about finding someone who adds to your wealth, not become a dependent
This view just seems so depressing and transactional to me.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:02 am to cheobode
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I didn't start making $50K until my mid 30's, which was about 7 years ago. My wife, three kids and I are very comfortable
How much does your wife make?
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:04 am to kingbob
I feel like I could’ve wrote that
Same boat over here. I’ve sacrificed everything & anything that brings me joy this year. I hate living like this.

Same boat over here. I’ve sacrificed everything & anything that brings me joy this year. I hate living like this.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:04 am to kingbob
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quality of life has collapsed
Likewise over the past 3 years.
We went from being able to occasionally live like college girls with daddy's credit card to near zero discretionary spending despite increasing income.
It's tough out here on a young man. Groceries, insurance and utilities are outrageous now. Luckily I can do all my own maintenance on everything but man, one expensive repair and back to floating the credit card balance and trying like hell to beat it back down to zero.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:07 am to fareplay
Not bad, had to make a few career changes. I own a house and have very little consumer debt. I have 2 kids and would like more but inflation has ruined any chance of that happening.
I consider my self a good mix of hard working and lucky. I have a good wife and my parents like to watch my kids. I also made some smart business deals but some of that was by luck.
I consider my self a good mix of hard working and lucky. I have a good wife and my parents like to watch my kids. I also made some smart business deals but some of that was by luck.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:08 am to McMahonnequin
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How much does your wife make?
Less than half of what I make.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:08 am to fareplay
GF and I make a decent salary, rarely go out to eat, don't go to bars, bare minimum debt, live in a cheap apartment, don't have expensive hobbies, yet it seems increasingly harder to save a significant amount of money each month.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:09 am to TRUERockyTop
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People have different perspectives, mindsets and taboos than internet user I am dan. News at 11
I get that... You know it's okay for someone to think something is odd right? You do get that? I want to start with that idea. It's okay for someone to think that something someone else does is odd. So we good there?
I don't think it's normal for people to sit and talk about personal information like salaries. I guess I like to have privacy on such things.
I just find it odd and typed some stuff. It's not a big deal.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:10 am to fareplay
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As younger part of the work force we get paid less and rent is going up. Dont have time due to work and commute, cant save because inflation, unemployment, bills, what we doing?
What ARE you doing?
I have a few millennial engineers on my team. At least two of them already own a house, (not certain about the other) and for the most part, seem to have their shite together. They understand work/life balance and are good/great contributors.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:11 am to kingbob
Just lift weights bro it’ll fix it
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:12 am to fareplay
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Bro have you even shopped groceries recently? For a family of 1, it’s almost cheaper to eat shitty fast food or large takeouts portioned out vs cooking at home.
I know I'm way behind in this thread, but I just wanted to chime in on this tidbit.
This is certainly not true. Groceries are more expensive now than its ever been, but cooking at home is easily cheaper than eating out.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:15 am to fareplay
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Bro have you even shopped groceries recently? For a family of 1, it’s almost cheaper to eat shitty fast food or large takeouts portioned out vs cooking at home.
see, when you guys say shite like this, its hard for us to take you seriously. do you just lack common sense when it comes to managing money?
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:18 am to alexahet
Hows our friend? well your friend, i was exfriended.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:18 am to jpainter6174
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I’m doing well, bought my house 5 years ago before the market went crazy, it’s 20% of my bring home salary.
That was the hardest part about moving to Texas from baton Rouge. We had to move because of specialized medical care that I needed. Bought our 1700 SF BR home for $180k in 2018 and had just redone our bathrooms less than a year before we had to relocate. On a 15 year mortgage we were only paying $1400 a month. We will be looking at houses next year and to get essentially what we had in Baton Rouge but less updated with good schools is like a minimum of $2k a month in mortgage payments on a 30 year

Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:19 am to kingbob
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I did most everything right.
quote:no you didnt.
I avoided heavy drinking, drugs, unprotected sex, and even caffeine
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:19 am to SaintEB
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This is certainly not true. Groceries are more expensive now than its ever been, but cooking at home is easily cheaper than eating out.
You're right...
But also, I don't know, man....

Small bottle of roasted sesame oil was $15. Yeah, that's a decent little purchase for a meal as a simple ingredient if you're trying to save money. A bit anecdotal.
Did have some leftovers though. Was a pretty decent dish.
When we get fast food for three people, it's usually over $30 easy. And unhealthy as hell.
If the person you're talking to has the option of cooking and eating out. Cooking at home is always the right answer.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:27 am
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