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re: Military experts: who is your worst general?

Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:30 am to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9598 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:30 am to
quote:

give Westmorland a bit of a pass due to the fact he was very limited on options due to the level of micromanagement from Washington.


Virtually every major decision was micromanaged from the Oval Office.

If you want the worst military leader in history, it would have to be Saddam Hussein, who tried using Stalinist meat grinder tactics against the coalition. Stalin had near unlimited bodies to throw at the Wehrmacht.. Hussein did not.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:07 pm to
Westmoreland was an airborne artilleryman put in charge of a guerilla war. He was totally unsuited for that, but he had the right rank, and airborne was riding high at the time.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56952 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:08 pm to
Percival
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20541 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:09 pm to
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After watching a Vietnam documentary and reading a bit, it seems like Westmoreland dropped the ball at every turn. He wanted more troops, then sent them into these villages with a shitty plan at best. Is he on the list?

How would you go about winning that war given the rules of engagement?
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18898 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Benedict


the egg mogul?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69747 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:15 pm to
I don't think there is any question that the man you seek is Luigi Cadorna of the Kingdom of Italy. An authoritarian who couldn't have given a shite less about his soldiers, the man ordered 11 nearly identical offensives against the same position from 1915-1917 before being absolutely embarrassed by a combined Austro-German offensive at the Battle of Caporetto in 1917. He hardly ever let his soldiers go home on leave from the front, delved out harsh punishments for the most minor of offenses, and deliberately undermined/ruined his own subordinates when they dared to question his tactics.

This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by HillabeeBaw
Hillabee Reservoir
Member since May 2023
2857 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:19 pm to
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John Bell Hood
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
234 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:34 pm to
Whoever was leading the Krauts on the eastern front in WW2. They should have been better prepared for the Russian winter and they all knew Stalin was a psychopath that would have killed every single human being in the Soviet Union to save his own skin.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12944 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:42 pm to
Pemberton
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6154 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Milley. And it's not close.


HAs to be top 5.

McClellan was a great office general, terrible field general.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2750 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:38 pm to


General Burkhaulter frowns upon the question.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39112 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:40 pm to
Braxton Bragg thanks the Lord every day for Gideon Pillow.
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2319 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:46 pm to
Bragg was the worst general for the Confederacy and now we honor him by naming a large army base after him.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5100 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

General Tso

Obviously.


He makes a mean chicken dish though.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9015 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:51 pm to
BS…You don’t know anything about why he got wiped out…..
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175860 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Percival

Singapore was a disaster but Percival wasn’t up for the job.

If we’re talking Brits and hype/legend vs reality then it’s Bernard Montgomery
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29174 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

How would you go about winning that war given the rules of engagement?


I said at the beginning that I am not a military buff. I can’t call upon past wars or battles to throw out a better plan. That’s kind of why I asked. That said, it seems like his response was to just get more boots on the ground. Alienating locals while you burn down their huts is pretty damn foolish. I think his lack of a real reaction to casualty is what I thought was poor. It was like Les Miles constantly running up the gut.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120234 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:57 pm to
Vietnam was a shitty plan in general. Everything from the draft to the one year tour.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26094 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 3:05 pm to
The one thing I concluded from Vietnam is that if your not willing to do what it takes to win the war, then don't get involved.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15064 posts
Posted on 12/16/25 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Benedict Arnold


quote:

He let his ego ruin him.


More than that.

He was again passed over basically due to Washingtons Army needing the wagons and supplies from i think it was William Alexander (Lord Sterling as he called himself).

Several times passed over he realized he had no future in the Army. Broke after sinking what he had into the Revolution and permanently injured he was concerned with how to take care of his wife after all was over.

Britain offered him a retirement essentially securing his future.

Its more nuanced than what history remembers. Politics left him being passed over like half dozen times despite being very good.

Washington himself wrote Congress about several of the snubs in protest.
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