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re: Microchip Shortage is pounding Ford - F-series outsold by Ram and Silverado

Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:54 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119111 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:54 am to
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The main complaint is it is a turbo V6. Embarrassing to put a V6 in a full-size truck.


I'm not defending Ford, but they have been doing this for a decade now, and the turbo V6 is the main engine they use now. It's harder to find the 5.0. I had the 5.0 and it was rock solid. Traded it two weeks ago for a Tundra.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:55 am to
Maybe that's why they are losing market share?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35302 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:56 am to
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The main complaint is it is a turbo V6. Embarrassing to put a V6 in a full-size truck.


Why?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37491 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:57 am to
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Hafnium: A rare metal used most often in nuclear reactors. It speeds up CPUs.
Tantalum: Used on GPU transistors along with palladium to increase chip storage space.
Palladium
Potassium hydroxide: This chemical, also known as caustic potash, etches a circuit design onto the board.
Aluminum
Gold
Zinc
Iron
Nickel
Copper

These are materials used in conjunction with silicon.
LINK

Tantalum mining and basic processing

Palladium mining

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All of these are heavy metals. While palladium exists in nature in a pure state in places, most of it is reacted with sulfides I believe and requires further processing for obtaining the pure metal. These refining processes, paired with open pit mining for many of the metals, have the potential to be very detrimental for the surrounding environment.

It can be done cleanly. It can be done “cheaply”. It can’t be done both.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22057 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:58 am to
I'd actually consider a mustang if they put that twin turbo V6 in it.
Posted by jag211
DFW
Member since Mar 2009
226 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:02 am to
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The main complaint is it is a turbo V6. Embarrassing to put a V6 in a full-size truck.



But why?? I have no problem pulling anything I've hooked up to. They have all pulled my trailers just as good as my 2008 that had a 5.4 triton. In your opinion what can't that ecoboost V6 do that a V8 can with the limitations of a 1/2 ton frame.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 11:06 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:09 am to
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The main complaint is it is a turbo V6. Embarrassing to put a V6 in a full-size truck.



Starting next year, there will be no V6 in the Chevrolet Silverado. Your options will be a 2.7L turbo I-4, a 3.0L turbodiesel I-6, and a pair of gas V8s.

That's right....a turbocharged big displacement 4 cylinder is replacing the V6 in the Silverado and the upcoming Colorado. The 2.7L I-4 turbo is every bit as powerful as the old 4.3L V6. In fact, it's more powerful and smoother than the newer 3.6L V6 or the competing gas V6 engines from Nissan and Toyota.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:23 am to
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. Really bad for the environment where it’s done/really expensive to do it in an environmentally friendly way.



Might be time to break the glass and start doing this ourselves.

But I don't expect current leadership in Washington to be okay with relaxing any draconian EPA rules.
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1810 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:24 am to
When they do get caught up on microchips, is there going to be a glut of trucks unloaded on the market driving the prices down across the board?
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:26 am to
Thanks
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14794 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:27 am to
Or, hear me out… go back to making cars without microchips. You know, like all of the best cars ever made up until the last 20 years of turning them into computerized trash.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22057 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:28 am to
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When they do get caught up on microchips, is there going to be a glut of trucks unloaded on the market driving the prices down across the board?


The currently inflated used car prices will tank hard, leaving some people with some serious negative equity in their used cars.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:29 am to
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Or, hear me out… go back to making cars without microchips.


Or at least fewer of them.

Then again, even tool and equipment suppliers are having trouble because of a shortage of small engines (Kawasaki, Briggs, Kholer, etc.). I don't think there are very many chips in those things.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16456 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:32 am to
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Or, hear me out… go back to making cars without microchips. You know, like all of the best cars ever made up until the last 20 years of turning them into computerized trash.


You can thank the government and their emissions/economy standards for this.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:33 am to
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We outsource most silicone.

Well then Ford should start putting fake titty airbags in their trucks.

And silicon isn't the only thing that goes into chips.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:34 am to
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Microchip Shortage is pounding Ford


I can't fap to this.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:34 am to
Yay China
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13304 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:47 am to
Good, no more commercials about them being the number one seller for 40+years
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16859 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:48 am to
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Good, no more commercials about them being the number one seller for 40+years



GM has sold more pickups than Ford pretty often. But the F-series remained the best selling "model".
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58058 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:49 am to
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quote:

The main complaint is it is a turbo V6. Embarrassing to put a V6 in a full-size truck.



Why?


b/c it doesn't make his peepee stand up like a V8
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