re: Memphis PD bodycam of Tyre Nichols released

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Good Lord the amount of victim blaming in this thread and it’s all from small government dudes, funny how quickly y’all are to jump to lick the boot and defend the government killing people when it suits your warped narrative

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The cops were fired and charged.

This guy still played his part in the dumbassery.

It’s like what I said about the Ahmad case. A group of dumbasses ruined their lives that day.

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The rage/adrenaline cops feel after a pursuit is so commonly taken out on the perpetrator(now it's being caught on body cams), you'd think departments around the country would have gotten a better handle on it.

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One of the OT's favorite pastimes is shitting on California and and LA area. Well, they deal with more pursuits and subsequent apprehensions than any other jurisdiction in the country. I've watched many of them over recent years, and they do a damn good job of getting their person without killing them. I'm sure they have better training, more resources, and a better overall response, but they (LAPD, LA County Sheriffs, Chips, local PD, etc.) have given the model on handling suspects. They've learned since Rodney, and they're all under more scrutiny than most law enforcement. They are still capable of fricking up, and they face a growing number of lawsuits (because every shithead who gets spun out when fleeing sues them), but they do a decent job.

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Is it racist to give actually zero fricks about the entire ordeal?

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more like socioathic to be laughing at the gruesome death of an innocent man

All I want to know is, where and when will the statue be erected? You know it’s coming. Democrats will pander to them. The guy resisted. None of this gets to anything if from point a- get on your stomach and hands behind your back. The media will have us think that no matter what cops are wrong and victim did nothing wrong to warrant this. Victim did not deserve to die but what is lost is that if he respected the cops from the get go, nothing escalates to this point.

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Can someone with knowledge on this subject explain to me why they did a traffic stop in the middle of the road wouldn't they tell him to pullover to the side.

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The Officers who were involved were assigned to a street crimes unit. This means their mission was to likely interdict guns, drugs, stolen vehicles, or other felony street level crimes.

These units are always very aggressive by the nature of their mission. They stop a lot of cars under the umbrella of traffic violations, but their true intent is to look for other items. Over time, these units often slowly begin to abuse their power and their tactics become increasingly hostile.

These units require strong supervisors to balance the aggressive tactics with the preservation of rights. It’s not uncommon in some departments for some of the Officers to rotate out to Patrol for some periods to keep the lines of proper policing from turning gray after years of aggressive stops, searches, and countless uses of force.

Pulling a police vehicle directly in front of the suspect vehicle isn’t normal for a routine traffic stop.

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what is lost is that if he respected the cops from the get go

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I'll just assume you didn't watch the video of the traffic stop.

Or you love the taste of leather.

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And there’s the systemic problem, this is why this problem can’t be changed by defunding or just throwing more money at it. It needs to be a total reform, yes we need higher wages and higher standards for cops, but we also need to demilitarize the police force and add in people who are trained in dealing with the mentally unstable and suicidal. What we have now is a force that relies on brute force, military tactics, and at some times low IQ individuals who are given an enormous amount of power

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I agree with all of this but there is a huge factor we can’t overlook. The justice system is failing some of these cities. Why would any one want to be a cop in New Orleans when you keep arresting the same kid until he finally kills someone? What type of money would you need to pay someone to relocate their family to a city that hates you, absolutely hates you?

All of that is meaningless as long as we have 20% two parent home rates

Meaningless window dressing

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You’re only changing the definition because it failed spectacularly and those cities had to increase funding after they slashed it

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He’s not the only one.

I interact with Dawfan enough on non political threads to know that he’s not a dishonest person. If he says he meant reform and restructure, I believe that. I’m remiss to defend many progressives but I’ve enjoyed posts from him on MTV

They’re progressive and idealistic but not dishonest. I consider it misguided youthfulness in most instances, but I’m on the other side of the political aisle. So that’s a bit unfair of me.

I think he could possibly framing that not everybody who said “defund the police” meant disband the police forever. It was a catchy slogan that some people took to far and the other side could easily misconstrue.

But some stupid people did mean it in its entirety. And they laid it out pretty well what they meant full well (see my tweets on p36.)

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All of that is meaningless as long as we have 20% two parent home rates Meaningless window dressing

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Nonsense

Social issues of concern don’t cancel out the necessity of reforming police departments that produce shite like this innocent person being beaten to death and officers standing around joking about it.

Tyre Nichols lived in a two parent household and worked with his stepfather at FedEx. Didn’t magically stop police from killing him.